A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, Mbin, etc).
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Mastodon toot:
Daniel Lakeland @dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org
Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.
Oct 01, 2026, 11:32 PM
there’s 2 kinds of people on fedi:
40 year olds who remember the good ol days of the interwebs
16 year old queer shitposters who got tired of getting called every slur imaginable on other networks
both are into linux
Fuck that. I don't regret it. We built the world wide web from nothing for everyone and had it fucking stolen by rich assholes who put our community resources WE developed behind ads and paywalls. Unlike those uncreative hacks we have the talent to take it back.
Im sorry but I did not contribute to this in any meaningful way.
Uhhh excuse you, you create the meaningful content!
Says you
BITCH I EAT PEOPLE
Eek
Sorry that was rude. I just like your posts. You're an essential part of the fediverse and I hope you make more 🌷
Yes, bow to me, the grand architect of geocities Dragon Ball Z pages.
Come now, at least half of Mastodon/*key users are genderqueer twentysomethings who are mind-bogglingly good with computers.
I personally blame the iPhone. Shit all started going downhill from then
Nope. You got the time period right, but I would like to posit it’s when they started letting our Parents, drunk uncles and dumb ass aunties on Facebook.
The problem always has, and always will be, Facebook.
It's not Facebook either. The concept of letting too many of "those" people in to quickly and destroying the culture is known as "eternal September" and is from 93-94.
There are some lost kids wandering around complaining about their moms...
I dunno how they found it into here.
Not 40, but also don't want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization, whether that be by selling my data for profit, training an LLM with my data, or contributing to an inescapable network effect that can be increasingly monetized by various means.
The modern social media platform is not designed to foster positive interactions, but rather to maximize shareholder value.
also don’t want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization
I mean, you're fooling yourself if you don't believe Lemmy has been scrapped by a thousand crawlers by now.
I'm more paranoid about how many accounts are bots than about some data aggregator getting my dumbshit hot takes as training data.
Unfortunately as a younger gen z i need to supplement my Fediversing with traditional social media unless i want to have humor of a previous generation and get obliterated at school. I wish there was a greater variety of people on here
Nah, join the dark side. There will soon be a day when you can't understand the young ones anyway. Why not today?
People on here think too highly of themselves and the Fediverse. The overwhelming majority of people here don't know the basics of programming and of the few that do, the vast majority of them don't make any contributions. Even to those who do contribute, comparing themselves or the Fediverse WWW and the people who built it rather arrogant, no?
At the end of the day, the Fediverse would be better off going through a reality check. It's a niche alternative to mainstream social media that trades content for privacy. The tech is neat and the idea behind it is noble, but that's about it. It's not going to revolutionize the internet any time soon.
The internet itself was once a niche alternative to mainstream knowledge
The way I see it is, that we are all good or even experts at something. The internet is not only about programming alone. The frustration comes from people who 30 years ago spent time discussing and sharing all kinds of knowledge on websites, forums or wikis but now, large corporations charge money to present the same knowledge more conveniently, but not always in the right context
This includes programming, but also gardening, how to ferment cabbage, how to clean a smoking pipe, what to feed guinea pigs.
It is definitely doable, but will take many decades
I mean you're technically right, it is possible in theory. However, do you actually think that will be the case? I personally don't see it.
The WWW made vast amounts of information remotely accessible and easy to navigate. Likewise, social media made large scale remote and asynchronous social interaction possible. Even though both took decades to evolve into what they are today, they fundamentally transformed how people access information and connect with one another. That's what makes them revolutionary.
The Fediverse isn't exactly like that. It's a neat piece of tech, but it doesn't exactly solve a problem that couldn't already be solved. You can already communicate with people remotely, build communities, publish content, and interact with people across different platforms. The main thing that the Fediverse is trying to sell people on is decentralization which comes with perks like extra privacy and control, but which is valuable hence why this place has a genuine userbase, but I don't see it going beyond that.
As it stands now the Fediverse is just another platform competing in a sea of other platforms. The Fediverse is already around a decade old, and not much has changed during this time. It was niche a decade ago, and it's still niche now. The spot that it carved in the ecosystem is that of social media alternative that caters to left wing politics and tech bros. Even if it becomes more mainstream, it'll still be viewed as another form of social media rather than something entirely new and different. The Fediverse is most certainly not like the WWW.
Who are all these people comparing the WWW and social media as a concept to the significance of the fediverse? I've never seen it. Lots of people are excited about the concept of a decentralized reddit-like social media, but I've never seen anyone express what you described.
Feels like we're getting annoyed at nothing here honestly.
It was supposed to make everything better, we were sure of it.
We were horribly wrong. Sorry.
And 30+ year old people who enjoyed the good times while they lasted and are now nostalgic?
In our defense, corporations ruined the world wide web. It still has so much potential if they weren't involved.
Did we build the world wide web or did we just shitpost for the lulz for decades without realizing we gave all the benefits of our shitposting to Mark Zuckerberg?
Well, we went from shitposting in niche, independently run, forums, to doing it on corporate platforms that spy on you. So I don't think that the shitposting itself is necessarily the issue here
I don't regret it. I only regret letting the corporations stake their claim without greater pushback.
I would say I like it here, imo the format and overall technology is perfect. I am always impressed by how little battery and data voyager uses compared to all the other bloated apps on my phone.
Having said that, I am disappointed that even without feeds and algorithms, it has become a lot more rage inducing and depressing then I would have hoped for.
There is just so many things that affect my life in a negative way being shown here, can’t a guy get a little ignorant bliss about nerdy topics? Or long, deep discussions comparing the philosophies of niche hobbies?
Hell yeah, my geocities Nine Inch Nails fan site helped build the Internet
As a call center employee, the most inexplicably difficult part of my job is asking an older person to navigate to our website. When I give them the 9 letter address, it almost always results in a google search for them and the ordeal of having them try to pick out our website from the sponsored results brings joy to advertisers everywhere.
I'm 39, thank you very much.
