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[–] bob@feddit.uk 51 points 1 day ago (9 children)

This isn't the way to get rid of cars. If public transit is still shit, people will still have cars. They will instead park on the roadside and be more unhappy that their parking isn't convenient.

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 6 points 21 hours ago

A lot of European apartment parking is just a designated street parking space anyway. I'm not sure if that's the case in Barcelona, but I see it often in the UK.

[–] sanzky@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Barcelona has great public transit and quite a decent bike lane network. I have no idea why people use cars in Barcelona.

[–] Clanket@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Public transport in Barcelona is excellent

I only visited but it seemed very good to me. Up by the university I was astounded by how much they packed (subway, trams, buses going anywhere and everywhere.)

[–] WatermelonPaloma@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Public transport in Barcelona is great, and street parking for residents is also pretty affordable.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

There is no way to get rid of cars without inconveniencing drivers, and they will have to be very inconvenienced.

[–] megrania@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago

Parking on the roadside (outside the official parking spots, which you have to pay for) will usually get you a ticket or towed ... free public roadside parking is mostly a thing of the past in most densely-populated places, really ...

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Getting rid of parking is 100% the easiest way to get rid of cars. Maybe second easiest besides replacing roads with pedestrian walk ways.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Building efficient inexpensive public transit is the best way to get rid of cars. Otherwise you just have cars circling blocks looking for a parking spot.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll do that one or two times in a city before realizing it's better to take public transit in.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I knew people who would move their cars every week just to be able to drive out of the city once a month.

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[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

I think this is fine

It means easier rules for housing in a city that's mostly friendly to public transit and biking, which should help with the rising housing cost Spain is dealing with.

If you live in barcelona you aren't expecting to need a car anyways.

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[–] megrania@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think this is one of the key quotes:

“It used to make sense to require parking in homes to avoid public spaces being filled. But this generates traffic because it encourages people to drive. Young people are also less likely to own a car. They may either opt for car sharing or renting.”

There's practically no free public parking in Barcelona. It's either for-pay or you have a resident permit.

I hope this frees up space, not just for sustainable transportation but also for more affordable housing, something Barcelona really needs ...

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[–] KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I am curious to see if it plays out the way experts anticipate. I'd worry that cars are increasingly parked alongside roads, taking up space. I would love for parking to be a mandatory part of any real estate here in Germany.

[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Just because parking isnt mandatory doesnt mean they wont build it. It will just match demand more closely.

Plenty of functional cities were built before parking was a thing. While they do have lots of on street parking, pre-1950s cities also have the best transit.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

No, please God don't make mandatory parking a part of real estate. Build one large garage per X blocks and get rid of cars as a primary means of transport. Cars are a blight on the land and far to expensive to be sustainable. We need better public transit everywhere in Germany (although I think it's quite good especially compared to the north America).

Trams, trains, and subways should be the future of Germany as they're far more cost effective and far more human centric.

[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 18 points 1 day ago (20 children)

The idea is to remove free parking on the road side as well. Taking up space from the public like this shouldn't be free. The end goal is to reduce the numbers of cars, not to put them somewhere else.

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[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hard no. Parking shouldn't be bound as a necessity to every real estate, but every car ownership (see Japan).

There of course is an argument to make sure there's enough parking per let's say square 100m for everyone who'd need it for their car (even more so if this free's up the damn road), but mandating an available car parking space for any real estate would go the wrong direction.

Oh I mixed it up. Thought the whole "parking with real estate" was mandatory there, but it totally makes sense to connect that to car ownership.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

That's how it played out in my neighborhood. The less space for cars on private property, the more cars left out on the street. The cars become a problem without even being used.

[–] doleo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXLqrMljdfU - Yes, this is uplifting news for all but the terminally car-brained.

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