Not my 20-year-old car.
Without regulation, this will continue, and get worse. Remember to vote in every election you can, both local, and national.
this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2026
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Democrats aren't campaigning on this stuff so I'm not sure how voting is going to help this particular issue. They don't seem to care about it much.
Like this: Vote GOP and they won't so much as listen to their constituency. Vote Dem and there's some possibility that calls, letters, etc will get them to do something that favors their constituency. Voting is the first step. Making yourself heard, and being an ongoing nuisance about it is the second step. And you better believe that the conservative constituents are doing both steps. Democracy IS a Verb, in fact it's a Gerund, it's an ongoing process.
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What does voting have to do with anything?
If you were paying attention about automobile privacy, you would known that democrats signed legislation into law in 2024 that requires all cars sold in the US to have driver monitoring software.
https://www.gadgetreview.com/federal-surveillance-tech-becomes-mandatory-in-new-cars-by-2027
Partisan politics mean squat in the privacy sphere.
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Are you sure about that? OnStar has been a thing since what? The 90s?
It's not OEM, though. Those idiot consumers only have themselves to blame.
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I love my '93 excel. Just about manual everything.
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This stuff is why I'm apprehensive of buying anything remotely new.
The problem is, I also don't want to burn prehistoric forests to travel.
So this sits in opposition to the fact that I want to travel around using the light from the sun as my primary energy source.
For those that can't read between the lines, I want an EV, that I can charge by solar.
I am also aware of the slate truck. I have thoughts on it, but it's worthy of consideration.
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I really hope the Slate truck is everything they say it will be. Its lack of spyware is a pretty compelling reason to buy one.
My biggest concern with it is Bezos' involvement.
I looked it up now, slate truck. Seems like a good idea. I never cared for infotainment at all.
I do, but only in the aspect of using Android auto/Apple carplay....
Anything else available from the infotainment system is usually just to facilitate that connection for me.
I already have everything on my phone, why do I also need it on my dash?
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Same here. I wish Canada had a company making something similar since I’d rather not support the US economy. Choose your poison, I guess.
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Sus that it's another bezos company
He's an investor, I'm not sure how big of a stake he has and I wish he didn't have one but I'm happy to have an option to not be surveilled by my own vehicle.
Big Tech companies think they have solved advertising with infinite data. According to them, privacy can go fuck itself.
The irony is, you can try and advertise but I stopped paying attention a long time ago. Besides, I'm too busy spending all my money on living, fuel, and food. Good Luck Have Fun. And my cars are all over 20 years old. GG
well yes, it's why I have a Chinese car, they don't share my data with my government who are the ones that may want to hurt me.
My bicycle does not
Good. now get yourself a faraday bag for your phone.
Already stripped it of all proprietary software and don't put a SIM in it, so I'm good.
My phone does what I want. It doesn't spy on me
I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my biiiiiiiiiiiiiike!
Not yet.
e-bikes. Bet they already do lol. So many people believe the "e" stands for "electric", but it actually stands for "enshitification"
"Sharing" implies something much less predatory than the actual relationship.
Let me go bring a gun to a bank and see if they'd like to share any of their money with me.
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b..b...bbut...but CHINESE CARS ARE EVIL and untrustable unlike cars from good countries which would never betray us! Ban Chinese cars!!!!!
My car is doing no such thing, but it's a manual that's old enough to vote.
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What the fuck isn’t? Doesn’t even need to be connected to your WiFi. Devices can have cellular modems built into them now.
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Had anyone published a guide on how to strip these sensors yet?
Yes there's a YouTube video for various disable techniques via fuses or jumper wire kits. Such as this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e09Kjj2awG0
Thanks, but that guy doesn't sound like he knows what he was talking about.
He literally admitted that he had to get "information" from grok, and he never fact checked it.
There was no attempt to find or disable cameras, microphones, seat pressure sensors, etc. Those cars he "disabled" are probably still collecting all of the data and storing it locally. Just waiting for a dealer to plug it in to upload everything.
We really need just one person with car hacking skills to document how to disable the sensors (and then do a forensic analysis to confirm the data is no longer being collected). Then we'll all have at least one privacy car.
It was an example, there are deeper dive videos also, and links to kits to buy that bypasses the units but tells the car things are still fine. Agreed we do nerd better hacking, but then Auto companies would sue
Right to repair prevents these sorts of law suits
But that's only for companies selling the hacking as a paid service. There is zero standing to sue a guy hacking his own car and providing the info for free on the Internet (or, eg, at defcon).
Only thing they can do is void your warranty
They will claim decryption of proprietary code or something that violates Digital Rights Controls
People do that all the time. It's not illegal to reverse engineer something you own (at least in the US).
It might be illegal to sell something from what you've reverse engineered
It's not, I take things apart and repair them all the time. Those VOID stickers mean nothing. However the DMCA is expliclit on decryption, and that would be what they'd charge people with.
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA”) makes it illegal to circumvent technical measures (e.g., encryption, copy protection) that prevent access to copyrighted materials, such as computer software or media content.
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Countries are selling out their citizens to car companies in the name of "traffic safety"
But I don't have a car.
And yet, it likely has an FB account anyway. ☝🏼
Wild if true
No. MY car ain't sending shit. MY car is a 2004 Nissan which was built before all that BS started getting included in every facet of our lives.
Hoopty-ass shitmobile drivers unite!
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