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Iβve been on dating apps the last few years and while I always swipe left for Conservative, I also say fuck no to anyone Apolitical.
In these times anyone who supports or is ambivalent to the madness in our country is a shit person that I want nothing to do with.
Take a stand, pick a side or fuck right off.
I can maybe cut a little slack for someone who's like "I don't really understand politics or know history, so I don't feel confident having a strong opinion" if they were curious and honest. We all start ignorant and not everyone had the good fortune to get a quality education.
But the aggressively ignorant and apathetic can fuck right off.
In your 20s sure. At my age there's no excuse other than willfull ignorance and I'm not engaging with that. (I'm also not looking to date, thankfully)
Unless you had an absolutely shit background or a learning disability, not understanding history or politics is a choice they made.
I'm not holding it against them that their brains might not have been developed or focused enough at that age to take in the information, but if you realize you are missing something critical later in life and don't make moves to rectify it, that's also a choice
I agree and the only folks I give a pass to are immigrants, otherwise if US born there's absolutely no excuse to choose being uneducated or choosing to sit out politics.
"I don't really understand politics or know history, so I don't feel confident having a strong opinion"
That was my stance when I was ~16 when Trump was first coming into the political scene... When I got more curious, I got shut down for even asking "what has he said that was racist?" like it was a crime to even ask.
I was sooooo close to becoming a right winger, because the right wingers would JUMP at the chance to explain why they hated the people they hated. I disagreed with a lot but I bought enough lies to feel like the conservatives were overall the ones to vote for.
That era of my life was so embarrassing in retrospect. I was a teenager, but still. I still have a Trump hat my friend bought me in my closet.
there was this clip of some kind of like dating show/bar event thing? Basically two people speed/blind date on stage and the audience waves green/red flags based on the conversation. Neat concept...
Anyways, man and woman go up and one of the first questions she asks is "who did you vote for?" and dude just shrinks. Does this whole "politics aren't that important to me" and then "I didn't vote". And in the crowd all of the women are raising red flags. Because yea... they know what that signals.
In a later round another womans asks the same thing, and guy is like "that's a personal thing" and "I don't feel comfortable talking about it"... red flags going up.
This dipshits KNOW their poltical views are toxic to women. And instead of owning it, they're trying to pretend to be "apolitical" because no woman will fuck them.
EDIT: I found the clip/vid.
Also, just realized, it's the same guy. So first lady he's like "I didn't vote" and then later is like "okay I voted, but I don't wanna say"..... everyone knows bro... and that you're still tryna hide/lie about it to get laid is pathetic.
Take a stand, pick a side or fuck right off.
I dunno, everyone says this of the issues about which they care but other ones are too large etc.
For example, do you feel the same way about say, sweatshop clothes? In that we should take a stand,pick a stand or fuck off?
Personally, I feel the 12 year olds making the most of the clothes I see when I walk down the street is much more important than most national issues in my country AND is something where individual action really matters but, it's also an issue that requires actual sacrifice and work. Much easier to be angry at people online over politics...
I think there's a difference between "I affirmatively do not care" and "there's no purely way to be ethical, and that horror has fallen under my personal bar for attention right now"
It's also significant if you go out of your way to say you're not making a decision on the issue. That, in and of itself, is often a very significant decision to make.
"I don't do politics."
Well baby, politics is going to do you, regardless.
--Nina Turner
It's worth pointing out that the democratic party came together to ensure this woman was defeated in her primaries.
So the politics did indeed do her.
In some sense, kinda big of him to admit that he's been privileged and unaffected so far? I feel like many like Dave think they are victims of anti-white anti-straight anti-male agenda or some bs.
he's not aware that he's admitting anything. he's complaining that it's finally happened
Admitting there's a problem is the first step in finding a solution and getting your shit together. Maybe there's hope for him, unlike many with similar views.
I mean, not everyone wants to discuss politics all the time, and that should be an acceptable position to have.
Just because you don't espouse your beliefs at every conceivable moment doesn't mean you don't have beliefs or don't participate in the political process.
I live in a red state, and I'd definitely say something similar if a magat tried to strike up a conversation about politics. Most of the time I just don't have the mental energy to get into a discussion about it.
It should be noted that the comic is very purposefully using a woman of color for a reason. To say you are not political to someone whose entire existence is ruled by politics is to lay bare that you are privileged enough to be apolitical.
Totally agree. And especially when I know it's just going to upset me and won't change anyone's mind. It's a waste of my energy and happiness to constantly and pointlessly engage. Responding with silence often works pretty well, at least in person.
I don't think those who "don't do politics" are privileged. Many simply easily feel depressed hearing of bad news and literally tune out of the constant news cycle. But as others have pointed out, regardless of the reason for not doing politics, politics eventually do them. Plato once said that not being engaged in politics is letting inferiors rule over them. And oh boy, the world is experiencing first hand being ruled over by manbabies.
Edit: it was Plato not Socrates who made the statement
Some people also just get scared at arguing even if its friendly, because it reminds them of their parents and brings up trauma.
I think everyone does politics. However, many people just don't have an opinion on something because they don't know enough and don't have the mental capacity to
Life is hard enough for many people as it is.
Sometimes itβs just not worth arguing with people. Certainly not if itβs the fifth time that week or something. That shit gets exhausting.
Also, youβre allowed to simply not give a ahit on some things. Weβve all got our own shit do deal with without needing to form an informed opinion on every other thing that might be happening somewhwre in the world.
In my experience, privilege is rarely a factor. In fact, the most privileged people seem to be the most involved in politics because that maintains the status quo in their favor.
People who aren't interested in politics usually say they're too occupied with struggling to exist to read about different tax structures, the pros and cons of different immigration policies, or deciphering a local politician's rhetoric. When faced with an immediate problem, such as a hungry child, and a more distant problem, like an unfavorable tax plan, most people will choose to prioritize the more immediate problem.
Yes, politics is the reason why they struggle. But can you really blame someone for placing a priority on day-to-day existence?
Ironically at this point the circle of people that are affected is so big, that to be apolitical you are either a moron or at least a multimillionaire.
Either that or worked to the bone and left with no energy to organise.
I'm a white male with depression and a long standing medical issue that has consumed my life (Water on the brain.. I have had so many surgeries and stays in hospital)
I still say fuck Israel, Fuck everyone that loves Israel!
If I tell you "I don't do politics" it means I don't want to argue about this shit right now.
If more people that were privileged and weren't affected by things just shut the fuck up about them we'd be a lot better off. Like there's no reason most of us should give a shit about gay marriage or what transgender people are doing. We're not getting gay married or transitioning, we should mind our own business and leave commenting to the experts for whatever legislation is necessary. Instead we have all these conservative mfers throwing tantrums about all these issues and we all have to get involved to counter them just so people can go about their lives the way they want.
It could also be "If I told you my actual politics, you'd realise what a vile person I am and leave".
Is valid to distance yourself from politics when it gets too depressing IMO.
That's the utility of revolutionary optimism. You have to truly believe a better world is possible in order to actively work towards that, and this can become an anchor to ground yourself when news looks bleak.
So glad all the time and effort everybody has been putting in to end the genocide in Gaza has finally paid offβ¦ and Trump was convicted, so glad he didnβt get a second termβ¦ and those Epstein files. Glad all those pedoβs are in jail or dead now.
Sometimes you just gotta take a break from it all. The average citizen doesnβt have much power in small numbers. If some movement is gonna get big enough to actually effect change, you wonβt miss it.
Man the same post on reddit is wild, people wanting to implement auto bans for people who are apolitical like somehow that will help.
I'm starting to understand "I don't do politics." to often mean "I don't have the mental aptitude for political discourse and have spent a significant amount of my life becoming educated on other subjects or otherwise being unintellectual about most subjects." I feel it's a little more acceptable that way. Some people are just not that smart or have not invested much time in politics or current world affairs. It usually means, they feel inadequate discussing the subject with you.
Many Russians are apolitical, too. Not because politics doesn't affect them. It's because saying the wrong thing will affect them even more.