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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 95 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Conservatives are EXTREMELY good at indoctrination. The kids will unfortunatley probably never question their racist father's racist remarks.

Between home schooling and only hanging out with other church folk it's evil and apparently not really effective if it can be all undone with a year of university.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s not really that so much as Indians of high caste (which his wife is) basically consider themselves ‘white’. So as far as they’re concerned he’s talking about other people, not them.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Casteism and racism are functionally equivalent. Both are based on how / where you're born rather than who you are.

For centuries, people of European descent saw themselves as the global upper caste because of their skin tone and heritage.

It's taken time to undo that regressive thinking, and even though there are some white people who continue to think themselves superior today, most are not racist.

Similarly there are people of Indian upper caste heritage that do not support caste discrimination / supremacy.

I can't speak for Usha Vance herself but her mom, in her capacity as provost of the University of California San Diego's Sixth College, created a pilot course on race, ethnicity and gender in biology and medicine, served on the university's biological sciences diversity committee, and wrote proudly of her school's commitment to diversity.

I strongly doubt that she sees herself as "white". She also does not strike me as a woman that would raise a family with racist or casteist values. Where Usha went wrong is anyone's guess (probably at some point in her education in the US / meeting Vance) but her heritage likely has little to do with it if her mom was championing these values openly.

Both casteism and racism must be abolished.

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago

They will probably be raised to apologize for their skin color in white company. To be a "model minority"

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"A multi ethnic America is dirty!" he said about a country that exists from the colonisation and immigration of a hundred different ethnicities.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Maybe he thinks that the whites in America should go back to England???!

Because the one true original ethnicity in America are Native-Indians and everybody else who came afterwards, including his own ancestors, were the ones making it multi-ethnic.

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[–] nomen_dubium@startrek.website 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

the german far right leader (female) is married to an ~~indian~~ sri lankan woman and when asked about how that relates to her plans of deporting brown people she said her wife 'does not count because she was adopted by a white family in switzerland'

i mean, they also run a populist platform aimed at poor people with a libertarian program to wipe out social assistance though, so why am i even suprised by the hypocrisy?

[–] nodiratime@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

~~Indian~~ Sri Lankan . Also, she is openly pride.

[–] nomen_dubium@startrek.website 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

fair enough, corrected!

also, who is openly pride, alice or her wife? apparently they also have some kids and are in a civil partnership, but she does oppose same sex marriage (because 'tradition' of course?). i always have that mental gymnastics meme in my head when i read about her or hear her speak... x)

[–] Molvorin@feddit.dk 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don't know how his wife accepts what he says

[–] Stolas@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel so sorry for her and her children.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

Why, she married the couchfucker.

She could and should have left ages ago. The kids, yeah, they're getting the shaft on this.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago

He said it's become dirtier and poorer since Trump's first term, which is actually true.

It's just that it also got dirtier and poorer during trump's first term too.

trump broke a bunch of shit, and Biden didn't fix it. Now Trump's breaking more shit and we're gonna keep getting dirtier and poorer.

Has nothing to do with with ethnic makeup tho.

[–] Blibly@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Vance needs to spend the rest of his life in prison

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Vance is one of those freaky shapeshifters whose positions and principles contort anew as necessary to stay adjacent to power.

His kids are likely not just traumatized by him but terrified of the kind of monster he is.

They hate and fear him already.

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[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it's a decade of creeping fascism gmthats made America dirtier.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

America has always been mostly dirt.

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[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Most Indians in American politics are Republicans. Those repubs think they are white. I feel Usha and her kids don't see the brown when they look in the mirror. Sad.

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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Married to a brown woman, but the backdrop behind him is almost all white, young, able-bodied, thin women.

Uh huh. Yeah. Tell us how much you actually love your wife, you couchfucking pressure sore of a human.

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Yeah, like when the Irish came over to America right Vance?

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

She wasn't coerced AFAIK. She chose this scumbag and continues to stay with him. I don't have much sympathy for that. I feel bad for the kids though.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I'm okay thanks

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 days ago

Couchfucker

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I get it.

It's why you don't buy a white couch. It shows all the stains. You want a darker colored couch to hide dirt, orange juice spills, that kind of thing.

Only rich people have money for a white couch. Because if you spill some wine on it, and the stain won't come out, they can afford to replace it, no questions asked.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on the stain. Maybe there’s good reason Vance needs a white couch

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

Diaspora Indians are, somehow, white Europeans. Also, some confused Latinos. They'll learn eventually that Western imperialism cannot be separated from white supremacy, requiring the dehumanisation of others as a foundation, and they'll be a main target sooner or later before white infighting takes place ("are Italians even white???"/"fucking Krauts!").

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

For sure, tokens get spent.

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Thomas Jefferson sold his kids to slavery and we still put him on our currency. vance is the fucking same kind of scum.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

His kids will grow up and learn to hate him. Just like Musk's and Trump's do them.

I also predict when he loses in '28, his wife will leave him, then run for Congress as a Democrat a couple of years later. It will be a very messy and public divorce.

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[–] MrTomS@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Hating your parents and making your kids hate themselves and you - is that what family values means to Republicans?

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's jumping to conclusions, that they don't hate him already.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Hey if it's not lounge furniture, he doesn't give a single flying fuck.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

Sociopaths only ever care about themselves and for them everybody else - even their children - are only worth as much as the utility they have for the sociopath.

[–] beernutz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago
[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

I am waiting for the Right to say that saying the N Word isn't racist.

They already believe that (they gave a woman millions of dollars for calling a child that)

I just want them to admit it.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 9 points 4 days ago

His kids will have enough money that they won't need to grow up, they can be entitled self indulgent teens their whole lives.

Self-hating brown people is what that makes. Whatever your parents rage against that you see in yourself fuels all the mental health problems as an adult.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would like this dude to come to queens in NYC, the most ethnically diverse area in the world. The actually when there to study genetics with DNA samples. They'll give him a NY welcome for racists.

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What? America is already one of the dirtiest countries In ve seen. People just throw shit out of their cars. I'd hope that maybe some diversity could help clean that shit hole up a little.

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