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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's an open-world shooter.

Christ on a stick.

They're hounding after that damned MMO shit like every other publisher is. Sony wants it, EA wants it, everyone wants it, and nobody can fucking make it work. Hell, even Bungie couldn't pull it off with Marathon.

Why do they keep letting the market dictate what kind of games they should make? Just make a good fucking game. Stop consulting some market specialist who tells you, "Well, gamers are really interested in live-service engagement loops right now." No shit, Brad. Gamers are also interested in games that are actually fun.

It's like every publisher looks at the last five disasters and says, "Okay, but what if WE do it?"

Like it hasn't worked for literally any of them. Why would it suddenly work for a fucking megacorp like Blizzard?

And it's coming out in four fucking years.

Four years!

I don't care what's coming out in four years! I barely know what I'm doing next fucking Tuesday. You're telling me I should get excited about a game that won't exist until 2030?

I'm sure they'll announce Diablo 5 in 2069 and tell us it's going to revolutionize the genre with an innovative blockchain-enabled social extraction MMO where you spend 45 minutes farming a dungeon just to unlock the ability to farm another dungeon.

Just make a good goddamned game.

That's it.

You don't need to reinvent the fucking industry. You don't need a market trend. You don't need an engagement strategist. You don't need a ten-year roadmap.

Make a good game.

Then make another one.

Jesus Christ.

[–] kyTdKZx9PtDQ9e56u06@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Surprise. They announced Diablo 5.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is that also an open world shooter? 🤔

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, if you're a ranged class in any of them you're already playing an open world shooter. It just isn't 1st person 🤷‍♂️

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

FPS mod incoming.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

will it just be mephisto and diablo returns, or is it just BAAL "returns" or it will be the lesser lords hell as well. i suspect "andarael" that was revived will be in it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

FPS suppose to be a good money making game.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Lol.

Expedition 33 was a turn-based jrpg.

I'm just saying these publishers have lost the plot.

[–] bluelabel@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remind me to be excited in 4 years.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

remember ghost, peppridge farm doesnt.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they were announcing Starcraft 3 (and it was going to be an RTS game) I can understand there being some excitement around it even four years in advance because there's so few RTS games being made.

But a Starcraft shooter? Meh.

[–] filcuk@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

There are actually quite few RTS out or coming out now, it's a bit of a resurgence.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Genuine question, what was the last time Blizzard released an actually good game, much less a new good game? Because by my reckoning it was over a decade ago with Overwatch, and that leaves me with exactly zero expectation that anything they could make would be with the time to play it.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 87 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For all their faults Blizzard has never made a bad cinematic.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And the crowd goes mild!

[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Oh look… It's 40K Space Marine

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

StarCraft II is one of my favorite games ever, but I have no faith in modern Blizzard to make a game that isn't wrapped in trappings that would piss me off. Back in 2010, it was extremely annoying that the game required an internet connection and made us go through all sorts of wacky solutions just to have a LAN party. Nowadays, an online-only game is a non-starter for me. The story in SC2 jumped the shark after the Wings of Liberty campaign anyway.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

they got bought out. diablo is pretty much a disaster

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I played through Diablo 4, and honestly, the frustrating part is that there’s a genuinely good game buried underneath all the live-service bullshit.

The core gameplay works. The combat feels good, the classes are fun, the world is well designed, and there’s a solid Diablo game in there. If Blizzard had simply made it a traditional single-player Diablo game with optional online multiplayer, I think it could have been fucking phenomenal.

Instead, they decided they needed the live-service model.

And that created a massive problem: there was barely an endgame. Once you finished the campaign, the game basically became a loop of running the same types of activities over and over again, waiting for Blizzard to drip-feed additional content through seasons and updates. The live-service content wasn't arriving quickly enough to justify the structure they'd built the entire game around.

That's what pisses me off about modern game development. Publishers keep chasing the idea that every game needs to become an endlessly monetized platform. Sony wants it. EA wants it. Everyone wants the next Fortnite or Destiny, despite the fact that most of them can't actually pull it off.

Diablo 4 didn't need to be a live service.

It just needed to be a really fucking good Diablo game.

There was a damn good game in there. They just built the wrong fucking business model around it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

that is true, the lack of content after endgame is lacking.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago (4 children)

A game being announced for years in the future and all they have to show is a cinematic screams vaporware to me

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wish Metroid Prime 4 was vaporware lol

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I remember the last time Blizzard announced a really cool StarCraft shooter. Anyone else play StarCraft Ghost? No? Yeah, exactly.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I've played StarCraft Ghost at E3. So I have that going for me.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Do you mean the first time they announced StarCraft Ghost or the second time?

So this is actually the third time they've announced a Starcraft shooter.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

remember diablo immortal, that was just a money grab.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Dude. Don't you have a cell phone?!?

[–] jestho@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

That just flopped because we didn't have phones

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The cinematic was fire, but I wasn't getting "open world shooter" from it. Rather, I thought this was "Helldivers 2 with Starcraft window dressing," which would be awesome I won't lie.

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Same. Smells like a (fairly generic) co-op shooter to me. It might end up being good, but with the state of blizzard and microsoft these days I'm not really excited for this.

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[–] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bold of them to assume that there will still be electricity, world wide web and freedom to play video games in 2030

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or a Blizzard, with the way Microsoft is handling their gaming division...

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[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

This gets an exasperated “meh” from me

[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Microsoft Starcraft 2030

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah well, I'm out. Love the cinematic, but man I would've loved another star craft rts that was refined or better.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have no faith that current Blizzard would be able to beat StarCraft 2 anyways, they would just hurt the scene by dividing the playerbase more and SC3 would likely fizzle out sooner

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[–] Ertain@feddit.online 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So it's ~~the sequel~~ like Starcraft Ghost?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Well, so far, they're both exactly as released.

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[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was going to say Starcraft 2 wings of liberty, that came out in 2010. They then proceeded to release two expansions that fell short in both the story telling and game play.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

God, I was so pissed when Kerrigans solution was... To undo the events of WOL and just become a zerg before, indistinguishable, but somehow "primal"

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

and then become a xelnaga/zerg hybrid at the end, and completely ignored the protoss part of the game.

Blizzard can go fuck them self. I'm a big Starcraft fan. And i'm not going to buy anything from them. And i suggest everyone else does the same.

[–] Redacted@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Please god i wish they would just release more sc2 coop commamders and missions.

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