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Protest against the Omarchy/Omacom Foundation and the tech companies and executives funding far-right open source.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 100 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yeah, don't use Omarchy, not sure why anyone would need to since there are versions with more stable support and a myriad of other free options for every niche. The site lists many great reasons not to use it, that is appreciated.

I don't use Cloudflare but I'll say that's probably the hardest service for people to leave because it's been the easiest to set up and forget.

Now my one gripe. The People to Avoid category is a weird omelette that put together multiple lists of people and brands them all as fascists to avoid. It's a set of massive purity test retcons that are not productive because it mixes overt bigots (Yarvin) and Silicon Valley grifters (Dorsey) with people that are living foundations of open source who are accused of odd behaviour.

Is rms going around harassing women? Cuz the last talk I watched of him he was battling cancer. (I have read the Stallman Report, but as far as I interpret it he is just trying to make sense of normally taboo topics by writing it out, even if the way he writes it out people feel harmed or creeped out about it because it doesn't match today's accepted norms.) I wouldn't ask him for dating advice but I wouldn't hesitate to ask him for computer advice. Louis Rossman has an opinion that I believe is wrong, but not one he holds strongly enough that he would discriminate or disrespect a customer over it or let it interfere with the goals of owning goods you buy.

Yes, question the questionable parts, but to avoid them altogether is excessive IMHO, each should be taken case-by-case.

Everyone, without exception, is flawed in certain ways. While there are people that make their flaws their whole identity, which you should avoid, for those who don't, you have accept to a certain degree to achieve solidarity and accomplish things bigger than themselves. That degree doesn't have to be charitable as me, but my opinion is that lists that make it seem all equally bad is disingenuous.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If those individuals want to distance themselves from a Nazi movement, they can do so. They can put out statements clarifying their association. RMS battling cancer is an extreme case.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Right in the paraphrased quote declaring Rossman a transphobe he doesn't care enough to be trans-exclusive, in fact I'd argue the main point is that the culture war is stupid and unproductive, he'd prefer to be inclusive because it's irrelevant, that seems like clarification to me and it's the author muddying the waters up with the bad paraphrasing. His organization FULU is funded by an organization called FUTO led by someone who is a loose acquaintance of a fascist supporter (fixed). I know almost exactly how Rossman picked up some chud-like opinions, it's because he got bullied and screwed over so hard in New York, not from any other relationship. No evidence has been presented that he has anything to do with Omarchy, MAGA, or right-wing fascist movement, including that comment.

I want people not to confuse some latent opinions with a lack of integrity.

The full comment for context

I have my own idea of what a man or a woman is that I am going to guess is different from the politician in question. That being said, bringing this shit up all the time is absolutely  counterproductive and useless.  Especially when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Imagine if I was talking to a politician who weighed 400 pounds and agreed with me on an issue that mattered. And let's say that person did not like being referred to as fat because they do not think they are overweight. Would it be incumbent upon me to point out that they are fat? What benefit does that do for me? If this person is trying to help me not get screwed over by companies that lie and cheat to get laws passed in their favor so they can rob us blind, it's not really important in that moment that I point out that that person is in fact obese. What their personal belief of "obesity" is is a useless discussion that has nothing to do with my own actions and identity.

What people choose to do in their own homes or what they choose to call themselves is their business and is not something I care to discuss.

What matters more than that to me is what people tell me I am not allowed to do in my own home with the products that I bought and paid for. That is an issue that is much more important to me.

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[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 82 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I will continue never using it

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 30 points 3 weeks ago

And I salute your action of inaction! 🫡

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[–] Maragato@lemmy.world 69 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

People use Brave even though Peter Thiel is one of its main investors. People use Brave even though it was created by Brendan Eich, a homophobe and Trump supporter

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago

I had the sense that the general consensus in the inner tech circles is that Brave is bad and Firefox is good.

Its the outer ring of the tech circles still privvy to Brave.

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 68 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

Protest if you like, but I'm going to say: Stop talking about Omarchy if you want to hurt it.

The people who like it are going to like it, the ones who don't won't, and screaming about it just brings it to the attention of more people who never would have heard about it.

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Disagree on that. Those 18 million are in big parts going to go into marketing and reputation washing, specifically to people that might not be tuned into the broader Linux or even tech ecosystem. Those will not by themselves start looking up the background of a shiny Linux distro that is being hailed by everyone as a super nice and easy way to get into Linux. Some education can go a long way there.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 57 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

That is a fantastic page, well cited.

Also dang, I didn't realize Jeff Geerling was so conservative about homosexuality and abortion. Pretty disappointing.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Bit of a shock to see several people on there.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Donate to KDE and Gnome and your favorite linux programs!

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[–] strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (25 children)

They passed a bunch on to Hyprland. Fuck all these transphobes and other bigoted right-wing assholes.

Actually, no. Fuck someone nice. Or don't; I'm not your mother.

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[–] yxc999@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Nice comprehensive overview of why this piece of slop called a "distro" and its backers should be boycotted, thank you! Gives me even more motivation to finish up mine today.

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[–] sevenoverthree@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Aside from this dickhead and his shitty worldview, the OS is nothing more than a curated experience with what could be some fucking awful and dangerous AI implementations. I don't understand how people with any modicum of tech literacy wouldn't pass on this fucking thing INSTANTLY. I have always had mixed views on networkchuck, but to see him pumping this fucking thing up was pretty much my tipping point to writing him off completely.

And regarding DHH... I don't know how you could listen to this guy talk, and not get the Euroid sociopath vibes. Plus his little harem of fanboys are presumably gonna be jumping in at this point. It's just fucking gross. I passed on this months ago, and I will continue to pass.

[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe the ones pumping it up are the "AI bros" and "tech bros" AKA non-technical folks. These types don't actually have the skills or knowledge to put together something like this themselves so they rally around Omarchy because that work has already been done for them.

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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 33 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Am I crazy for saying that DHH is a far-right plant and Omarchy is a plot to destroy FOSS from the inside?

[–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago

DHH is far right, clearly, I'm not sure they have a plan for destroying FOSS, they seem to be trying to normalize their worldview (which is bad enough)

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

...The heck happened?

I've been under a rock for a bit.

Explain to me: why is there so much hype (and controversy) around some Hyperland Arch Linux config, within like a month? Is this some astroturfing thing?

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Disclaimer: I only know bits of this story and am missing details.

Creator vibe codes configs, makes a "distro"

Creator says fairly fucked up things online, effectively a "dog whistle" gathering right aligned attention and money- and a quite a lot of it.

Begins hiring similarly minded people, claiming "the money will be spent" on the distro

All of it wreaks of BS.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago

Positive polarization: a lot of rich people are donating a lot of money to it, maybe (probably?) because the creator is well-connected and the OS makes lots of references to AI. Negative polarization: The creator has bad opinions, and the OS is very AI-forward.

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[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 26 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

I am all on board with letting people know when open source is a bit too aligned with major companies or is somehow compromised.

I have no intent or need to use Omarchy.

This sites list of YouTubers to shun however is a bit too "purity test" for me. The reasons listed are, let's say extremely tepid in many cases.

I've never heard Jeff Geerling talk about any issue other than homelab stuff like hardware pricing and availability. His religious and personal views were not apparent to me at all.

I watched the Louis Rossmann video mentioned with the CO State Rep, and Louis was respectful and platformed this individuals commentary on the subject of privacy issues for a long time in the video. Generally Rossmann seems to criticize the living hell out of politicians left, right, and center.

I guess all I am saying is... Use whatever products you do or don't want to for your own reasons but, I disagree with the concept that I should brigade specific creators because they support Open Source but not 100% of my particular basket of other issues. We need Open Source to grow and need to reach out to diverse groups who can find value in it.

I will continue to listen to both Craft Computing Jeff (as far left as it is possible to be on social and gender issues) and Jeff Geerling (who is apparently conservative on these same issues) because I'm listening to them talk about homelab stuff, not telling me who to vote for etc.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 3 weeks ago

This is good messaging. I’m glad someone is making it explicit. I’ll bookmark this page and share it.

[–] frmrm@peachpie.theatl.social 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Omarchy is a distro in the same way that I’m a fighter pilot because I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

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[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Oh Omarchy is "agentic" now? Is there a change they can point to that made it so?

Also the phrase "agentic Linux for the age of agents" makes my brain bleed.

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[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I think the best thing you can do is to ignore omarchy.

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[–] someone@lemmy.today 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

I am not trying to argue this, but some people will say "It just looks like a linux distro that is designed to be more agentic friendly, even if some of its backers have unscrupulous pasts." What is the response to this? Because I'm sure it's vibe-coded and insecure, but there aren't really linux distros that are agentic first distros and some computer enthusiasts really like AI. And yes, people can just install Jan or LM Studio on their own in another distro, but some people may want open source code and linux designed for AI. I know people on Lemmy often hate AI, so please don't hate me for writing this. I just don't totally get the reasoning aside from some people involved in the project seem to be assholes... or is that the reasoning?

To be honest, if not for security concerns I'd probably try this distro if it weren't somehow linked to anti-trans things, which makes anything completely toxic. But I looked at the Omarchy page just to see what it looked like and conceptually for people interested in agentic stuff, it didn't look that bad, it seemed sort of interesting.

Trans people are some of the best network engineers and coders out there and greatly help the open source community. Any open source project that isn't kind to trans people should be ignored. Maybe that's the point? That normally a project like this linked to anything anti-trans would be rejected by the open source community and it's only through soulless corporations and right wing tech bros that this is existing?

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago

How is it "open source" with all that bloatware garbage it has? There is nothing open source about it from what I saw.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

this website is so scarily designed (in a way that screams “scam” to me regardless of its content) that i doubt it will reach anybody but us

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[–] madeofpendletonwool@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is The Primeagen also a garbage person? I've always thought of him as pretty down to earth and real.. But man he's been making them rounds with DHH lately and getting heavily involved in Omarchy

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[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Never heard of Omarchy until people started criticizing it. Are you sure you're not just giving them free advertising?

[–] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 47 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ignoring fascists and hoping they go away is one reason why fascism is having a resurgence right now. Immoral behavior should be challenged as widely and publicly as necessary to make everyone aware that it's inappropriate. People don't stop doing immoral things unless there are social consequences for it.

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[–] halm@leminal.space 18 points 3 weeks ago

Thing is, they launched with a lot of hype and investor money. The criticism is an entirely valid reaction to counter DHH's narrative around the (lazy spin off an existing) OS.

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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think boycotting omarchy itself (easy to do) is a lot more effective than boycotting everything else.

Let these companies see their money go to waste because no one cares.

[–] MissingGhost@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

What are some some good distributions on the other end? Is there like a communist, ally software distribution? Everything is political.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

AntiX (based on Debian) is the only distro I know of that is developed by vocally anticapitalist leftist devs, even putting "proudly Anti-fascist" on their main page.

They also are one of the few distros to take an anti-LLM stance (though with Debian itself being pro-AI now, it remains to be seen how far they will go to avoid new LLM contributions made to the Debian base).

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