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[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 102 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I consider any post mentioning 'prediction market' names like this to be advertisements. They are not news sources, they are gambling sites.

[–] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 27 points 1 month ago

Agreed, but society is going to drive off a bridge before they acknowledge it, let alone do something.

[–] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Exactly, if you think about it for a second, what exactly is going to power these data centers if Patagonia is so remote and undeveloped?

Oh look its mostly natural gas, which is threatened by all the mess in Hormuz. And hydropower, but the country has been in economic chaos for decades so there's no centralized efforts to get those up and going.

Basically dead on arrival as far as ideas go.

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[–] f314@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago

~~Undeveloped land~~ nature

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"undeveloped" is such bullshit and really always was.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Years ago in my hometown there was a developer that wanted to expand the parking lot of the stripmall he owned into a wooded lotone of his major reasons he gave was that "it was just trees" so there was no real loss.... For some people if there isn't a profit being derived from the land then its worthless.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

In my opinion they are building the infrastructure for a fully automated surveillance society, for automated media manipulation, and to remove humans out of the kill chain in the military, while dismantling the rest of what remains of the middle class. We are going straight into high-tech dark ages / feudalism. Shadowrun and Cyberpunk, here we come. (Edit: the only thing i am not sure about here is if we will have corporations with more power than nation states, or nation states having absolute control over corporations and using them in proxy wars. Time will tell.)

Russia with its limited AI development seems to already have deployed fully automated killing machines (Powered by NVidias Jetson Orin module). The US aim for the same, and everyone else who doesn't want to become a vassal state will have to follow suite.

When i think of this future, the only picture my mind can produce is Black Mirror - Metalhead.

Edit: If used for these tasks, it's also not important if inference is something you can make money with. OpenAI, Anthropic and the Neoclouds are a grave for billions of dollars - but that doesn't matter if the rewards are non-monetary.

[–] leg@leminal.space 2 points 4 weeks ago

Fully automated killing machines?

I can see the future.

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[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I don't understand what the data centers are for? Why do they need so many and what are they even doing? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for something I feel like is in a stock market bubble on the verge of financial collapse as soon as these big corporations realize it isn't as viable as they hoped, which has been coming incrementally.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 19 points 1 month ago (28 children)

Practically, the only use of them right now is to inflate stock prices. No business benefits from this much compute other than hardware suppliers and construction companies.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m sick of pretending these men aren’t mentally ill. Every last one of them should be in Arkham Asylum

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There's evidence that extreme amounts of wealth and power do drive one mad. One study had people play monopoly with one player (chosen at random) starting in a privileged position (e.g. extra starting money, and twice the income passing go). They became assholes really quick, and believed their victory in the game was due to superior playing.

But it gets crazy when you're so rich that no one will disagree with you about anything. Surrounded by sycophants, it becomes easy to assume you're the smartest person in the room and expert of everything.

Some world cultures see it as an illness just to hoard massive amounts of wealth, but here in the states we nurtured a culture in which superlative wealth became a common ambition. Especially after the California gold rush, and get-rich-quick schemes became the norm.

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 weeks ago

Oh god, billionaires have been experiencing AI psychosis before AI, that's why they don't see any issue with it.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Capitalism rewards narcissism. It’s the system

[–] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

....and this is why the united states wants to get rid of the ICC so badly.

[–] abos@piefed.social 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Isn’t Patagonia basically pristine and undeveloped because it is very remote and hard to develop. And from that highway documentary I remember also big parts are private property

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

big parts are private property

Surely that makes them easier to buy and develop on than if they were publically owned? Or am I missing your point?

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Big sales are easier with consolidated ownership vs disaggregated ownership.

If you need all 1000 acres to get from point a to point b to build something but requires 1000 different people to individually agree it may be next to impossible compared to needing 30 government officials to agree.

There is a reason eminent domain is used so much in the US vs private transactions for large projects. The Dakota access pipeline for example could be done through private purchases, but it's basically so impossible that not approving forced government sales through eminent domain was consider "blocking" it.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For Nuremberg trials we would have to win the war first.

[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

I read it as Nuremberg laws at first. Not what I would call it.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

What we need is a French Revolution. Off with their heads. Nothing of value would be lost if the genAI tech bros all became a head lighter... or a body lighter if you prefer.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Presumably they wouldn't want to build the data centers in the national park depicted in the photo, but rather in the larger desert part of Argentinian Patagonia which is basically vast stretches of nothing whatsoever.

It's maybe the least offensive place to put a data center in for that reason

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Another least offensive spot is the Dakotas. Plentiful power and free cooling.

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Nah skip it, line em up and give them "The Pianist" treatment.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago
[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a very hospitable climate. We should drop all the CEOs off down there.

🤣

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[–] Aeder@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Good luck with that. After the center left governments got removed all initiatives to develop internet infrastructure in the region stopped expanding.

The internet service down there is expensive compared to the rest of the country.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm sure they'd deploy their own fiber backbone.

Not to mention that Patagonia spans multiple countries.

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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Me when a gambling corpo is my souse of news

[–] morto@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

Such moves were predictable long ago As people in the developed world protest against datacenters, while they use a lot of ai (oh, the hypocrisy...), giving pressure for more and more datacenters, the industry would move them to the developing world, so that the protesters would stop caring, while they make a marketing around here of generating many jobs and bringing economic development.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

They always gotta go argentina

[–] sanitation@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

any mechanisms for returning to coherent government model must include non-deteriorating beyond not beying able to extradite from south america. we need friends and allies there

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 weeks ago
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