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[–] oyzmo@piefed.social 21 points 2 weeks ago

GDPR ... this sounds like it could be very expensive for LG if a consumer agency reports it

[–] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 13 points 2 weeks ago

The thing is, it just isnt even a surprise anymore. In fact I'd be more surprised if these devices weren't doing this. What worries me is that the industry seems to think its acceptable and more often than not there are no consequences.

[–] Zomg@piefed.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Shout-out Sceptre TVs. Probably the only one you can trust anymore

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can you still buy them? They've disappeared from Amazon in the last year or so.

[–] Zomg@piefed.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't personally looked

[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Regular monitors possible good route too if you don't need huge screens. And if you are a pc gamer then you at least get higher than the 120 hz cap lot of TVs come with these days, and the added benefit of it being a dumb panel.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

1984 was taken as an instruction manual

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Before buying a TV we researched what you can use without giving it internet access. Turns out that is quite a few. We got a Samsung and indeed we never had to, and just use it as a dumb screen

[–] Darnton@piefed.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I haven't watched the Gamers Nexus video(they are the ones doing the research on this subject) yet, but according to their preview in their previous video, it seems they hinted at the fact that some tvs can access the internet even though you don't physically connect them.

I was also of the belief that if you just kept your smart tv dumb then it wouldn't be a problem, but it seems like that is not entirely true.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh damn, that's a long video... since we already have a TV I guess I won't be watching the entire thing.

I guess they could do that if they included a wireless modem in the TV. That would be kind of crazy though - companies don't make that much money off harvesting user data like this, so paying for a mobile connection would be surprising to me.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

IIRC the user marketing data exfiltration method pioneered by Samsung several years ago involves a form of Bluetooth P2P/mesh networking whereby a TV with no internet connection can handshake with, for example, a neighbor’s TV which does have internet enabled or, if they’re just as tinfoil as you and disabled their internet, your data and theirs could simply be relayed to another neighbor’s TV on a different floor, etc etc

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You've got to admire it on one level.

Hopefully they're too scared of the GDPR to try that shit here.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, quite clever. No iron ring for the engineer, but I’m sure they were briefly proud of themselves.

That’s a good question re: gdpr. Regional activation of those modules in FW revision is certainly possible. But my guess is that the difference relates to the payload contents and whether or which PII is permitted by any particular local laws, since I expect that would maximize profits.

[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Kind of fascinating the whole tinfoil spying angle was about governments, but turns out even if governments didn't do it companies now have every incentive to do it to monetize your data.

[–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I've got no cell reception inside, thanks to aluminum siding, but it's going to be annoying as fuck if I have to open up my next TV and figure out which circuit board traces are antennae or which chips are wireless.

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

sure, we've already got every other parallel between reality and fictional fascist dystopias that we've already had and I'm too lazy to list, why not telescreens, too. Let's build the Torment Nexus while we're at it, assuming AI isn't that already. Just go for broke, see what I care anymore. All hail ~~Big Brother~~ Lucky Goldstar.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

If they do this in Europe, too, they are in for bad, bad times.