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It's called toilet plume.

A toilet plume is the invisible to the naked eye, cloud-like dispersal of raw, infectious sewage particles as a result of flushing a toilet. Flush particles rapidly rise out of the bowl and several feet into the air after flushing. Aerosolized droplets can remain suspended in the air for tens of minutes between users, posing an inhalation risk. These invisible particles go on to coat and spread onto surfaces like floors and counters or objects like hand towels, bathmats, or even toothbrushes.

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[–] Wren@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago

I've been inhaling the shit plume for thirty years and I'm not about to stop because of Wikipedia.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mythbusters.

Do whatever you want, indoor plumbing means there is shit everywhere, closing the lid has little to no effect. This is just life, get over it.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Different is between a fart of poo water and a small geyser.

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[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You close the lid to avoid a plume of fecal particles. I close the lid because otherwise my dumb cat jumps directly into the bowl. We are not the same.

[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I keep the lid open to watch the poop circle the drain, very satisfying

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[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (9 children)

YSK to not be scared of every little mundane thing in life. It will paralyze you

[–] r3g3n3x@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

Agreed. Obviously there are some things that, as we acquire new knowledge that may change daily behavior, need to be reconsidered, but this is not one of them. People will look for the dirty hypodermic in the haystack of swords.

There’s so many other things to care about more. In the age of information, our mental health depends on conscious gate keeping of what we allow to concern us and modify our behavior. Everyone needs to decide their own path but if you don’t and just scroll the feed you’ll go mad.

[–] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

true, but if I gotta close the lid anyway to stop the cats from drinking from it, I may as well do it before flushing rather than after

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

YSK that your toilet lid isn't a gasketed seal.

https://www.ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-6553(25)00630-3/abstract

Putting the lid down does reduce the amount of shit mist, but it does not even get close to eliminating it.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'd much rather have something fall onto the toilet lid than into the toilet. That alone makes closing it worthwhile.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'm happy to see the top comments are from rational people.

I'm 60, the last time I was sick was when my son brought covid home from his work. Before that, it was when he was in kindergarten and first grade and brought home god-knows-what from school.

If a germophobe ever saw how I live, they'd run away in horror. I swear not being fastidiously clean is what keeps me healthy.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (8 children)

People are fascinating.

There are people who follow the "10 second rule", i.e. food hits an unclean surface like the floor and they will pick it up and eat it.

Meanwhile, every single person who was born naturally has been shit on at birth. This is a thing that happens. And studies show that excessive cleaning of newborns leads to all sorts of allergies.

So there has to be a balance.

I'm sure a non-zero number of people have gotten ill from toilets flushing. I'm also sure that number is pretty small. And I'm as sure from studies that show that keeping the lid closed still lets particles out that it's going to happen.

I'm of the opinion that this is a very small problem.

But as it happens, I keep my toothbrush at my desk because it's more convenient for me.

So if it bothers you, keep your toothbrush in a cabinet and/or in one of those little cases.

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every other sexual post these days seems to be about eating ass, I’m not sure toilet plumes are high on the GenZ+ concern list.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tbf, eating ass is a direct route of infection for both bacteria and parasites. Floating poop particles from flushing toilets is not.

[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Well, I can’t afford GLP1 so gotta find some weight loss parasites somewhere.

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[–] Creddit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

The invisible particles that spread by air are not generally able to transmit disease because of their size, low concentration, and the short lifespan of pathogens surviving the airborne journey.

However, when you flush under a closed lid a MUCH higher concentration and long-lived pathogenic layer is deposited on the underside of the lid.

When you then sit down to shit, your shirt brushes against that moist underside of the lid behind you and THAT is much more dangerous as it moistens your garments and follows you back to your couch or bed.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I'm appalled that you just assume it's normal for your clothes to rub up against the toilet lid at all or that its position when you flush can make that not gross.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I only shit naked, so take that you shirted cock swabbler.

You shit and then pull your pants up by your belt.

You have never once washed your belt - anyone who says they have is coping.

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[–] Cytobit@piefed.social 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How about we quantify how dangerous the farticles are first, before we decide how useful closing the seat is? Who cares how many invisible particles it stops if they turn out to be harmless?

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also it’s good for your immune system to get exercise.

Houses are too sterile these days.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Dont even get me started on how coddled the modern anus is.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

should I leave my face in the facehole before closing to ensure I'm in the splashzone?

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Along with this... Normalize dudes sitting down to piss.

[–] Surp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No thanks. Balls and dick touching toilet waters a thing for some of us. Having to sit in a tiny ass toilet and somehow maneuver your junk with your hands also getting in there..nah.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but are you 120 y/o and are your balls sagging to your ankles? I have at some time experienced the head of my dick touching the bowl but I have never, and considering the designs of toilets will never, experienced my balls touching the toilet water. And I am not ashamed to say that I sit down to piss pretty much every time

[–] Surp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No but I've spoken to older people and been told by them stories of these things happening. Guess you never speak to old people? Things happen when you get old. Buckle up! At least you admit the tip part so we can be water tip bros.

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[–] BeN9o@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

"A 2024 study showed evidence that even closing the lid may still lead to small viral particles escaping through gaps under the lid, resulting in viral cross-contamination of the air and surfaces in a washroom."

This is what I remember, there's no actual solution to this. Still close the lid though!

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That same study also includes this figure,

But the study doesn't measure other surfaces or things like "a nearby sink" or "a hand towel". Perhaps for airborne particles they roam more freely, but what about surface particles? I feel like there is more to study.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is similar to why we all wore masks during the pandemic. No, they're not always effective, but yes, they reduce transmission rates.

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but there is incredibly strong evidence that mask wearing does reduce transmission rates. I haven't looked (so definitely correct me if I'm wrong), but I suspect that lid closing likely does not have strong evidence for decreased transmission.

One factor that I think likely weighs heavily into this is that public toilets, where you could be exposed to particles from a stranger dont have lids usually, and they have a much more violent flush, while home toilets are mostly just used by your own household.

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[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I just recycle it instead. You get used to the taste after a few cycles.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Which would make your colon a farticle accelerator...

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It is how I build my immune system.

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[–] DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unless your toilet lid is airtight, you'll never fully defeat the plume.

Just keep your toothbrush in a case

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With cleaning in general, there is never fully anything. It's about abatement. If a measure is (for example) 80% effective, the whole chain forward will have contamination numbers 80% lower. So even if you keep your toothbrush in a case, it will have (again, made up numbers here) 80% less contamination. Which, depending on the microbe, it could mean the difference between a immuno-compromised person catching or not a disease.

Now, in your house, you do you. But it baffles me that the norm for public restrooms in the US, even in hospitals, is to have no lid at all.

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[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Been doing it for years

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It also stops things from falling into your toilet, pets from getting to the water, etc.

Closing the lid is the only sensible thing to do.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

Found Doctor Rockso!

[–] SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This seems like the pinacle of sensationalized bullshit. You're going to be fine. Flushing the toilet has never killed anyone.

There are people who literally eat shit as a fetish. If you're afraid of the possibility of errant molecules, you need to go outside.

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