Slop.

Kerry didn’t run on ending the Iraq War. He ran on doing it better. (I had to check because Kerry literally ran on nothing like all fucking centrist dems (although fuck the entire genocide party obviously) so I can’t even remember a single policy he ran on. I was in high school when he ran. My dad stayed up all night to watch the election results. He was coughing like crazy by morning. He had basically made himself ill for fucking John Kerry. This was also after Howard Dean lost the primary (running on universal health care and also from Vermont and also a traitor) because he screamed yeeeehaaawww!!! at a campaign rally. Kerry also went duck-hunting at night like three days before the election in November. PATHETIC.)

Libs never talk about Kerry’s presidential campaign (except in this tweet, oddly enough) because the guy clearly ate shit due to his centrism. Same with Biden. They moan about Hillary because they can blame her loss on russia / being a woman rather than being a terrible candidate and person. Same with Kamala.

I thought I might be in the minority so I gave up all my principles

Fucking pathetic

israel as a wedge issue

die

Imagine thinking that nothing has significantly changed in US politics since 2004. Oh, right centrist Dems are definitely stuck in 2004/2008/2016. What no object permanence does to your political awareness; many such cases.

this is an evil country, i do not want to be where this country is at

This guy thinks a hostile takeover is when people have strong opinions and vote their ethics.

It would be nice if we had enough class unity to show him what a real "hostile takeover" looks like

If the issue is low salience, then what's the harm in adopting the morally correct position?

idk who this guy is but i thought it was accurate that americans don't break votes on "foreign policy" until literally just now.

I remember when they said that blind support for Israel was a tiny wedge issue last election too, and then it cost them the election. I've also seen democrats flatly refuse to ever learn from their mistakes the entire time I've been alive!

So he thought the war was so unpopular people would vote for any old shit, even another pro-war candidate, just to get W out of office. If that was him young and idealistic, I dread to imagine where his head's at these days

The 2004 reflection is halfway to a correct analysis.

The other half is that the plurality of Americans don't vote because they're not motivated to, and of the ones that do, they are very forgetful and cast a vote based on how they subconsciously feel about a candidate in the moment.

These socdem types that are paying lip-service to anti-Israel sentiment are, in fact, cynically doing it to win primaries and elections, and are not, in fact, going to practice any anti-Zionism at all. You can see the change in e.g. Mamdani's rhetoric once elected, and how he's working with Zionists now. This is how socdemism always operates, that's the role it plays in the system: Deradicalize, pacify, control the opposition.

Hot Take: IDK who this guy is but I think there's SOME truth to what he's saying. As much as anyone-to-the-left-of-Regan hates Israel now, I kind of doubt it will actually effect voting patterns as much as some of us hope. Most "median" voters just vote according to who they think will make the economy better. If anything I'd argue the foreign policy shift is largely linked to the fact quality of life is declining in the USA lead a lot of regular Americans to start going "wait, why are we giving this ethno-state all this money? And spending so much on a war with Iran that we're clearly losing?" Which I guess is an improvement but also show's a lot of Americans are fine with Imperialism when it actually (seemingly?) benefits them.

I prefer to think of it as a "wedgie issue", because if you're on the wrong side I'm going to stuff you in a locker.

Holy shit Hutch was triggered

Bro should've stayed on trials evolution fr

Hutch openly supports Zionists

“By wanting politicians that do what the base supports…you’re doing a hostile takeover of the democrats! People might laugh at us if we aren’t republican clones…yeah they laugh at us anyway, but maybe they’ll stop if we’re even nicer to them?”

he's not wrong to a degree. Not being pro israel probably could have helped Copmala win another state or two, but it wouldnt turn into a landslide. most people are going to vote because of the price of gas near them. Americans are just really fuckin worthless.