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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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Outdated by today's understanding of identity but this '90s show banged out many subversive pro-trans messages.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world 159 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 63 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Kor, Dahar Master and Trans Ally πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 42 points 6 days ago

When one of my best friends from childhood came out to me, he texted me after a few years of not having spoken (life stuff, not intentional on either side). This is basically how it went.

Him: hey, man

Me: [dead name]! I've missed you, what's up?

Him: Actually, it's [new, male name] now. I'm transitioning.

Me: [new, male name]! I've missed you, what's up?

Totally unintentional to the star trek reference, but he got a real kick it out of it, and reference ds9 after lol

[–] meat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 days ago

Makes me tear up a little

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago

Save this one to send to your transphobic family members as needed.

[–] stankcheez@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

male, female, or anywhere in between β€” the spots go all the way down

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"the spots go all the way down" can this be the universal code for acceptance?

[–] one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think it is what past Rutherford would have said to an attractive trill trying to get in their pants.

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[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

After this show, I always wanted to name my future daughter Esri but then I wound up working with the IRL geo mapping software company which goes by the same name and now I just can't seem to bother.

That and I'm still a burnt out virgin still living with parents. lmao

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

^when you wanted Ezri but got Norvo

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago

My name if I was a girl was going to be Isis, so I guess I dodged a bullet with that one.

[–] silicon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

I guess QGIS is out of the question

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 17 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Does anyone know the background of this character? Is she some being that changes sex randomly every night?

[–] user1234@fedinsfw.app 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She's a symbiotic species with a slug-like creature in her. The humanoid part only lives about as long as a human, but the slug lives for many centuries and when one host body dies, the slug is moved to another. It contains memories from previous hosts. This scene was from shortly after one host died and the slug was moved into a new one, who wasn't quite as prepared for the transition.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Brain memories and muscle memory. Ezir was able to do backflips because a previous host was a gymnast

[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social 18 points 6 days ago

Muscle memory is a type of brain memory. It's not literally stored in the muscles or anything like that.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Also worth mentioning that while memories are retained in the slug, each host/slug combination is considered to be a unique being and not necessarily exactly the same person as past incarnations. They deliberately play with the boundary of this to show how having different body or gender is part of who we are but doesn’t totally define us.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Ok, it was mentioned that she is a Trill with a symbiote that moves from host to host, BUT a couple relevant points.

1 - The worm (symbiote) that lives in them merges with the host, combining personalities. This symbiote has been joined to eight hosts at this point, which means there's about that meany people's lives in there.

2 - Not all trill get a symbiote, they typically go to a special academy and need to be in an elite group to get one. Once you merge, you can't unmerge without killing the host.

3 - this host, Ezri, was untrained and would not normally get a symbiote, but the previous host was killed and she was the closest available host, so she was assigned this symbiote without being properly prepared.

4 - two of the previous hosts - Curzon (a male host) and Jadzia (a female host) were extremely popular and well respected, which put a lot of extra pressure on the current host, leading to a lot of self doubt and personal identity confusion.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

A note on point 2: the merging doesn’t become β€œpermanent” per se immediately. There’s a brief window of a few days or so when the symbyote can be removed from the host, undoing the blending, but it’s quite psychologically traumatic for the host the be separated once the blending has begun and physically traumatic for the symbyote.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She's a Trill, a being that maintains its prior memories from host to host.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago

I see, that's cool!

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 13 points 6 days ago

This is Ezri Dax.. She is a Trill. Some trill host symbiotes. The symbiotes live longer than their hosts. During hosting memories and personalities blend, and the symbiote will carry that blending into the next host.

Her symbiote is named Dax and was previously hosted by both another female, Jadzia, and a male Curzon, and several others.

Jazdia Dax was the name of Jadzia hosting Dax. Curzon Dax was the name of Curzon hosting Dax.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 11 points 6 days ago

A long lived slug lookin thing that lives inside a humanoid host body and kinda merges their personality and memories. Ezri is like the 8th host to Dax.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

If you're gonna hang out in a Star Trek fedicomm you're probably gonna wanna watch TOS (The Original Series), TNG (The Next Generation) and DS9 (Deep Space Nine) at a minimum. They're quite good, but fair warning: the special effects are pretty dated, especially in TOS. The writing and acting hold up terrifically, though.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I absolutely don't wanna squash your enthusiasm, but I think for people randomly popping in here from /all, watching three whole series to answer one question is a bit overkill. Even if I'm interested in ST (and I definitely am), the suggestion* that I have to watch them all in order to be a part of the community is a bit daunting. Personally, I struggle with having shows hold my attention anyway, so committing to all that is a non-starter.

* I know you didn't mean it as an explicit "you have to", but the expectation "you'll want to watch... at minimum" creates a certain impression

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

*with caveats. Some episodes are best left skipped.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or specifically-watched to see just how BAD Star Trek could be at its lowest points. Looking at you, Code of Honor...

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The episode that came to my mind. There are others, but none so bad.

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[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Those episodes are frequently discussed and memed, though, so as far as community involvement goes they’re actually among the most important!

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[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 13 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Outdated by today’s understanding of identity

Because she's talking about being a Trill host to a symbiote, not being transgender. They are two entirely different things.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 41 points 6 days ago (14 children)

Animal Farm was just about farm animals

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Being a Joined Trill is a lot more like being genderfluid than trans. For example Jadzia didn't look back on her time as the male Curzon as "wrong" or dysphoric. She WAS happy as a man and IS happy as a woman.

Ezri was a lot more confused, but only because she hadn't been prepared for the joining like Curzon or Jadzia had been, and was thus more overwhelmed by all the new and unexpected memories. It didn't last, and Illa seemed far more comfortable in her own skin.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"Would you still love me if my personality was the almagamation of 50 other people linked by a giant, immortal slug?"

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[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago

Another example of this subversion was in one of the first few episodes of DS9 when someone refers to Jadzia "before she was a woman."

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago

Except they should uphold the reassociation taboo. That episode always didn't quite work for me. That norm is more an anti-monopoly regulation than a system of oppression lol

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I believe DS9 showed two women kissing for the first time on TV.

Edit: Correction, it was not in fact the first kiss between women on TV.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

First kiss was Law and Order Feb 1991.

Oct 1995 was Dax's kiss.

And in Feb of 2001 Willow Rosenberg couldn't figure out what to wear.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

May not have been the first but it still made me cry happy tears when I first watched it a few months ago.

[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Definetely feel this... dont feel comfortable, myself.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago

If trans, never stop looking for the supportive people to surround yourself with. They had to be subversive in the 90s and they may have to again in the future. But they will always be there.

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