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Yeah, it's already DOA.
If anyone is serious about creating a new centralised social network these days, they have already lost.
Shame. A new Twitter that supports all the open protocols would have been cool. Fediverse with a name people recognise.
Somewhere in there is step 3: profit
I want to start a business that fleeces these rubes, how does an average man break into the bullshit game
So, I'm just checking..
- It is not open source?
- It uses AI to "Fact-Check"?
- It costs 20$ to join, and possibly more later?
Well, they have chosen interesting path those people behind this thing.
sounds like Shitler himself launched the "new site" for some extra money grabbing.
This will never amount to more than a cash grab.
If only it was just a Mastodon instance (was thinking about creating "Twatter", as a joke).
Should've been a Nitter instance
2022: Come on, it's just 8$ it's basically the price of a coffee.
2026: Come on, it's just 20$ it's basically the price of a coffee.
2030: Come on, it's just 50 bottle caps, it's basically the price of a coffee.
2050: What’s coffee?
These guys are a bunch of morons. All of the comments here are proving as to why.
- Associates with AI
- Wants money to use it
- Doesn't factor that Twitter might not entirely be available after all
- Uses Musk's other imprints, like Grok, on it which may subject them to fail
- More centralized social media is not what we need
I'll give it a few months before they actually are sued into oblivion, to which they'll have the biggest pikachu shocked faces possible.
A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet.
Bwahahahaa
Really? The Gemini that got Google sued and found liable for the misinformation it spread? That's who you wanna trust to check for "veracity"?
I'm not paying a $20 entry fee into a walled garden that wastes energy and water to have a text processor guess whether my arrangement of words resembles its training material closely enough.
Because AI boosters made people believe not using AI/not wanting to engage with AI generated output is an extremist position, so you must use AI, just read the output, and maybe rewrite it.
I like using AI for coding (no, I don't blindly commit massive features), but any time I ask it questions that don't have super clear-cut answers obvious to the layman from a quick google search, it tends to give "good enough" answers which are actually "nowhere near".
Go ask it (well, really, google search) something to do with tuning an Audi 3.0 tdi ASB or BMK engine and it'll think you have a nice Garrett turbo that's easy to build hybrids from and a weak CP4 pump that can implode on you and take out the entire fuel system... Whereas you actually have a weak ass BorgWarner turbo that can't support bigger internals and a super strong CP3 pump because it was shamelessly using forum threads about the newer versions with the 4 digit codes (CDYA, CASA, etc) as the source.
These are the things you easily know when you've either read a lot of forum threads, or peeked under the hood of one of these engines. But most AI tools' web search tends to just look at the first threads it finds and deem that good enough.
It's a text generator that strings together plausible word sequences. It doesn't actually understand what an engine or a turbo is beyond the contexts and constellations in which those words frequently occur. It has no reliable way to tell which parts of the prompt are technically critical and need to match exactly.
In that way, it's not too different from laypeople like me: I have no idea about turbos and pumps either. I still might figure out that I need to check for the specific model and engine, but without knowkng exactly what I'm dealing with, chances are I might end up trusting the same (wrong) results.
I would assume if you include the keywords BorgWarner and CP3 pump, the more specific context might bias the probability space of likely answers towards more relevant results. That makes it a potentially useful assistant for people who already have that level of expertise and are just looking for specific answers on particular cases... except you'd still have to read the actual sources to make sure.
Basically, it could serve as a more sophisticated search engine for natural language, an iteration on previous query processing and correlation technologies. If I don't need to remember the exact wording or sender of a mail about a specific topic, a model trained on the terminology might pick out rough matches based on related words without needing to get the exact keywords right.
Frankly, I think that's the most sensible application of LLMs: find sources, not facts. Using it for fact checking is like skating on a recently frozen lake where you can't tell which parts are solid enough to carry you and which ones will suddenly break.
Ah but the thing is, the sources it finds are themselves wrong. They're talking about different things. If it finds the right sources, the information is most likely pretty good.
It's entirely possible that this could still be tuned somehow, but the way it is now, I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of it unless I know enough to verify the output myself, meaning it's pretty useless to laymen (which is whom a "veracity" bot would be for)
I did always think it was stupid that he bought a site with pretty great branding (twitter/tweets/the bird graphics etc) and immediately got rid of most of that branding.
The worst part for me personally (and maybe nobody else) is I love the band the xx but wearing their merch these days makes it seem like I maybe support anything musk based.
I can relate with my love of the (now disbanded) post-metal band Isis 😅
Yay, another centralized service owned by investors. And they want to build on “trust” lmao. Fuck off.
but it's got AI fact checking! /s
I'm already doing well here so i'll pass.
If it wasn't $20 to join, I might have tried it. But considering they haven't even finished their core case saying whether or not they're even allowed to use the branding yet, and they're trying to get $20 or $40 out of every new user, I'm going to pass.
I will check back at a later date to see its progress, but right now I don't think it's worth it.
Damn if it only fediverse user snagged the domain. It will be fun watching Elon seeth about it
Fortunately this probably irks Mulk Nose as it is.
(Also "se on mulk" works if you speak Finnish. Roughly translating to "it's (or he's, in informal spoken Finnish) a dic", mulkku being the actual word for dick (for both penis and someone being an asshole.)
Twitter 2
Ooh
Gemini fact checking
Awww