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    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 hours ago
    [–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago

    *BTRFS users when you don't rebalance soon enough and run out of inodes so you can't boot your computer

    [–] tty5@lemmy.world 16 points 2 hours ago

    Pfft.. it's been fine for the last 10 years.

    [–] scoobford@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 hours ago

    Hot take: I used arch for over a decade. It never broke unless I broke it.

    By all means, back up your files but rolling release distros aren't made of arsenic, you'll be fine.

    [–] Randelung@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    Separate /home is such a scam. Never have I run out of home space, but boy is 27GB not enough for a root partition that runs any kind of service.

    [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

    Use a modern filesystem like btrfs or even lvm with thin provisioning to solve that problem. Separate partitions for ease of backup, but they all pull from the same pool of storage.

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    I think that there's a reasonable argument for a separate home partition on a multiuser system. Means that users can't fill up root.

    But a lot of systems aren't multiuser these days.

    EDIT: Honestly, my biggest partitioning irritation these days is that the Debian installer makes it a pain in the rear to have a larger /boot if you're also doing an LVM-based install; the default is unreasonably small these days.

    [–] rklm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    On my PC and all my home servers I keep my root partition at 10GB and haven't had any issues (although I keep everything that isn't hardware related or a system utility in home).

    On my PC I crammed arch, all of KDE (+extra KDE utilities), and some other system stuff like LACT and distrobox in the 10GB root partition and run almost everything else as a flatpak installed to home.

    On my servers I do the same thing but all my services are in podman containers in /opt.

    Having all the software needed to make the machine work be isolated from my custom home junk makes me feel better, and I like that I can mount root as read-only to make it immutable

    [–] giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    i mean, all the important stuff is saved to OneDrive, right?

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 hour ago

    Straight to jail.

    [–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

    You missed the space between one and drive… and you accidentally capitalized a couple letters.

    Don’t correct me on this one. Please.

    [–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Important files go to repos / backup disks. Workstations are sinners in the hands of an angry god.

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    The ideal system probably is something like btrfs snapshot, then restic or similar of that snapshot to a remote disk.

    Btrfs doesn't dedup identical data at different locations. Restic (or anything similar non-filesystem-level) cannot take an atomic snapshot. If you have something like a PostgreSQL database, where the DBMS ensures that what's on disk is valid at any point in time, but only to an atomic view of the thing, you probably want an atomic snapshot of it.

    I dunno if anyone has a single off-the-shelf utility that does both steps together.

    [–] iocase@lemmy.zip 1 points 50 minutes ago

    Zfs does atomic snapshots and also computes the diff between snapshots when you zfs send/receive to remote. You can set up syncoid scripts to do all of this automagically and ensure source and dest match, have regular snapshots, and to manage retention schhedules on both ends.

    [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 60 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Fuck it, we ball. 3 years no arch deaths. Windows is a fuck. 1,000,000 pacman warnings.

    [–] MrKiosc@reddthat.com 5 points 56 minutes ago

    I don't remove orphan packages, I don't setuo snapshots, I don't read arch news.

    I sudo pacman -Syu. And if I can't boot I don't do it

    [–] inmate_p01135809@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

    I remember daily driving Gentoo unstable in the early 2000's on my rig in college. It was like trying to beat a Dark Souls boss every time I wanted to do an update.

    [–] ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    I’m here for a good time, not a long time

    Also, my last Arch death was due to accidentally ovverwritimg the whole drive, so no amount of split partitions is going to save me

    [–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

    They call it disk destroyer for a reason. You gotta alias that shit.

    alias dd='echo Did you triple check which device you picked? Of course not, dipshit. Check again'

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    They call it disk destroyer for a reason.

    There's nothing specially destructive about dd. It's just a program that opens a file, and if you tell it to open a device file and it's got permission to write to it, it'll write to it.

    You can just as easily overwrite a disk's contents with anything else that will open a file and write to it.

    # cp /dev/urandom /dev/sda
    

    will wipe your drive with random data in the same way that

    # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
    

    will.

    [–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 48 minutes ago

    Yours technically right but the way most people use dd ensures its like handling a loaded gun. How often do you cp /dev/sdwhy?

    [–] StumblingWasabi@lemmy.today 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

    *Surely * double checked is enough

    [–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago

    It's not. Neither is triple checking. Notice how the alias doesn't actually run dd? That's on purpose.

    [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

    I quadruple check and then I still don't run it because I'm too nervous so I go and do something else instead and the item remains buried on my to-do list indefinitely.

    [–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 hours ago

    Hahahahah I need to do that lmao!!!

    [–] imadethis@fedinsfw.app 2 points 3 hours ago

    Lol, as someone who tried a bunch of different distros, I used the dd command a lot without ever realizing what could go wrong with it. I must have used up all my luck with that though, because somehow I ended up on manjaro of all things.

    [–] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

    my manjaro has been running the same install for 6 years on ext4 no separate home partition...

    what are yall doing to brick your machines?

    [–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

    Right? The OP describes me (except I like to think I'm not that sweaty) and I don't remember ever having reinstalled because things were broken.

    [–] imadethis@fedinsfw.app 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    You're still using manjaro after all their drama? I jumped ship.

    [–] tautalas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
    [–] imadethis@fedinsfw.app 3 points 1 hour ago

    zloubida explained it with the link well enough. More importantly for me, the package repository seemed to stop being maintained, because many of my packages had no updates for a significant amount of time (and they had been updated elsewhere when I checked).

    [–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

    Conflicts between the project leadership and the developers. I stayed on Manjaro though, this kind of things is in fact good news: it means that people in charge care, and I think things will be better thanks to that. I'll just follow the devs if things don't go better.

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    I remember using manjaro vanilla and breaking it in a single month of use.

    No aur enabled, no nothing - it just broke, it wasn't even funny

    [–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 1 points 30 minutes ago

    Manjaro isn't Arch. Doesn't use the same repos.

    [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

    Btrfs and snapper. Only time I ever had to reload a snapshot was because of my own actions. I've been fortunate to never have any update related breaks. Maybe a couple services had hiccups, but never breaks.

    [–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago
    [–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago

    xfs gang? πŸ₯²

    [–] EastofEdson@piefed.ca 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    No sweat. I prefer to reinstall and start fresh every now and then anyway.

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

    'It has been ~~2~~ 0 days since the last reinstall'

    [–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 6 points 4 hours ago

    This is me!

    [–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    My /home/$USER partition is on a separate disk. Me wicked smaht

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    [–] reader@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

    does btrfs finally work now?

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

    I was introduced to it by a synology nas a decade ago, and it's my preferred fs. I wish proxmox supported it, my compute server had to go with ext4 since it's got one disk for the system, and one for the VMs, no redundancy. They say it's in 'tech preview' but most mainstream distros have had it for years now...

    [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

    Finally? It's been SUSE's default for at least a decade now. It's the default for Fedora since 33, so ~5 years ago. Btrfs has been working for a long time.

    [–] rklm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

    Yeah and it's awesome. I have it making backup snapshots automatically and I copied the steamos-readonly script from valve to automatically lock everything except my home/root/var/opt etc (I realize you can remount ext4 as ro too, but still btrfs handles this well).

    I recently swapped the contents of two drives of different sizes (one was a server and the other was a PC) and btrfs made the filesystem resize and expansion parts easy.

    I have ext4 and dont use a separate3 home partition but I use timeshift

    [–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    ROFL Like, this was me on other distros just using ext4, no timeshift (made manual backups though, not as much as I should've). Now, I am understanding the hype with btrfs, Snapshots, as they have saved my ass so much. Using Garuda Linux, BTW! Sometimes a machine doesn't matter so much so...I lived life dangerously, and paid for a particularly low cost for it.

    [–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    Snapper is sooooo nice 🀩.

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