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This person, a liberal from Finland, self-identifies as a tankie because he wants to murder Russians. Words officially mean nothing. English class is canceled.

https://lemmy.ca/comment/24908172

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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"You're clearly not ready for that conversation."

They will loftly indicate that the time for debate is over etc. etc.

Idk how he thinks Putin is the one nuclear sabre rattling when Trump literally threatens to nuke Iran every other month.

Ah yes, who is more fascist, the country actually fighting it's own bourgeois war, or the country paying and arming everyone else to die in their bourgeois wars? The degree of removal makes it even more sick and twisted, not less.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Clearest take here. Sometimes I am so gobsmacked, it addles me.

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're clearly not ready for that conversation.

Funny that the modern version of "loftily indicating" is using a 2015 Tumblresque smug quote or Marvel quip.

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

I really, really fucking hate these people I swear.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 63 points 1 month ago

fedposting I'm what you'd call a tankie and I think Putin and Xi are the biggest threat to humanity.

[–] tyra@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 month ago
[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Libs dilute socialist terminology to the point of meaninglessness, but I never thought I would see them do that to the word "Tankie" to the point that they start self-identifying as Tankies.

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago (7 children)
[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I, a Maoist, think it's time we start protesting against landlords by forming choirs and singing about voting.

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[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We might have called ourselves the Liberty Party. We chose to call ourselves National Tankies. We are not Internationalists. Our Tankieness is national. We demand the fulfillment of the just demands of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one.

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[–] ThatVeganYouHate@hexbear.net 44 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Look, I'm not an expert on Russia or Ukraine but I'm confused about the point that there is a genocide in Ukraine. Isn't the part of Ukraine that is being destroyed in battle where all the ethnically Russians live? Who is being genocided? Russians?

Do libs just think that every war includes a genocide to dilute the term so the Israeli's have ammunition when people call them out on it?

[–] Big@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the liberal ideology, words are all empty signifiers that can be fit into two categories. "Bad" and "good".

Genocide is, to them, not the state sanctioned ethnic cleansing of targeted groups, but just another word for "bad".

The foundation of the liberal world view is to morally absolve yourself from benefiting from capitalism by publically signalling your moral purity, and condemning others for their perceived lack of morality through the "good" and "bad" categories.

That's why debating people online is pointless. Libs already have most of their material needs covered in the current system and any criticism can only boil down to personal taste in manners and fidelity to the system.

Sorry for rambling, I'm drunk

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Their imperialistic fascist genocidal theocratic regime (vibes based) vs our stumbling, tragically imperfect democracy (is literally all of those other things)

[–] Fayne@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There isn't any "genocide" in Ukraine. This is a lib tendency to call all wars and war crimes as "genocide". There is no proven extermination of Ukrainians in Ukraine

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[–] naom3@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

I think it’s probably a combination of not being aware that there are ethnic russians in ukraine or that the donbass is predominantly russian, lib brainworms about putin secretly trying to take over all of ukraine and exterminate ukrainian culture, and the sad reality of what fighting “to the last ukrainian” means

Do libs just think that every war includes a genocide to dilute the term so the Israeli's have ammunition when people call them out on it?

Yeah probably

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Do libs just think

No, they do not think. That's most of their problemsi-love-not-thinking

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Libs have really stepped up their use of genocide to describe all conflicts after Israel began their genocide in earnest. Them watering the term down starting with the fake Holodomor stuff, and then the fake Xinjiang stuff, and this is a continuation and amplification of that. Ukraine's national story it tells itself is that the Soviets and now Russia keeps doing a genocide against them (when in fact, all genocides against Ukraine [after the Mongols and Steppe Clans] have come from the West, not East, and Ukraine has been the far more genocidal entity since 1991).

The libs know they can't hide Israel's disgusting actions, so they have coopted the public anti-genocide fervor in an attempt to redirect it towards state enemies instead of allies.

[–] ghost_bug@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just want to mention that the same user in another comment says that Netanyahu "is functionally small potatoes by comparison to the alternatives"

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[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm something of a tankie myself

Is just a hitlerite

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

hitler did love a big stupid tank though

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

if he loved tanks so much why was Germany only outputting 1 tank for every 100 the soviets were by the end of the war? Fake tankie.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

"big" and "stupid" weren't there by accident

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn they're still going on about Hong Kong huh. Not even 1% of the brutality meted out by cops in the US but whatever I guess they're evil for regaining sovereignty of a port stolen by the British at gunpoint.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the only people who died were killed by protestors (one hit an old man with a brick and one fell off a parking garage iirc)

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't forget the old man the protesters lit on fire. He survived though.

The one who fell off the parking garage was hopping around on roofs with a bow and arrow, lmao. Fucking LARPers.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

i'm just agape libs still refrain to "uyghurs" as if that's just ancient genocide history despite knowing for the past 3 years what a genocide actually looks like.

it's so thoughtless and shameless but yknow they're perfidious orientals, everything bad thing i hear about them must be true! any discussion of US flock cameras is like this too, endless "what are we, chinese?" despite the fact china never developed a flock-like system, or actually had social credit scores. all my grains for a lib capable of critical thinking

[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Outside of the content which is abhorrent in its own right, I hate how he goes about speaking on this topic:

His choice not to fight

He is not peaceful

He isn't able to stop from knowing

As if President Xi is some emperor or god king reigning over China as opposed to the reality of being an elected politician alongside hundreds of others.

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

That's our word! catgirl-cry

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago

I saw that one the other day. "Tankie" officially has no meaning anymore, holy shit.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

That's a fun op. Redefine tankie to mean "far left that support violence" and then use that redefinition to create a crowd of people who claim to be left wing supporting Ukraine, opposing China, supporting everything that benefits the US agenda, etc etc.

What I think this speaks to is the fact it's getting very hard to create fake sections of the marxist left that support american agenda these days. It has become ubiquitous among marxists that anti-imperialism is the primary contradiction, and because of that it has become extremely difficult to split marxists on anything at all. Even marxists that aren't fans of Russia recognise its importance to AES and anti-imperialist projects globally.

There's more unity among marxists these days than I think I've ever seen in my lifetime.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Uyghurs

Job programs and night school?

Hong Kong

Reintegrated according to a treaty signed 99 years prior and left with a ton of autonomy?

Tibet

Freed the slaves?

[–] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

A tankie is just someone who enjoys violence and here’s why that’s a good thing actually

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

His choice not to fight does not, however, mean he is peaceful.

parenti-hands

[–] kisstrel@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Words never did mean anything. See "woke" or countless other terms. Language is not a fixed medium but a field of ideological struggle shaped by material reality. When a term starts to leak into the mainstream discourse it is being transmogrified by bourgeois cultural hegemony.

So yeah, tankie is done. Close the book. But if we need to refer to critical supporters of the USSR's actions in the Hungarian Uprising its not hard to use other more direct words or phrases. Defender of AES. Proletarian internationalist.

i'm quite particular to "communist" myself

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

The internet has turned this guy's brain into actual soup lmao

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Oh god this is so embarassing.

And why do these types always write stuff like it's some epic movie they are living in. So much words, so little of anything else but vibes.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

what if instead of Great Man Theory these nerds believe in Great Post Theory

[–] ghost_bug@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is funny is that the term "tankie" is effectively a barrier that stops liberals from potentially moving left and this comment pierces holes through this barrier by distorting the commonly accepted meaning of the word (aren't "tankies" supposed to be pro-Russia??)

Combined with the other blatantly horrible and nonsensical comments from the same user it makes me convinced that at least a handful of onlookers on the original post are now more open towards leftism

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[–] agentant@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Xe

Because we should be listening to the geopolitical opinions of the guy who doesn't even know the fucking name of the leader he's talking about.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Can't spell a two letter name

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[–] BattleshipPokemon@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought they were using neopronouns to refer to someone else the screenshot cut out 😭

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[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

I really need to avoid interacting with these people my mind is already: "Are these savages salvageable? It's even worth the time to try?"

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh shit, first they call you a tankie, then they gentrify it I guess?

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Actually, I believe I am what italian-american scientists refer to as a "Jackie Aprile Jr". i almost drowned at the penguin exhibit in 3 inches of water.

[–] the_robot_from_planet_danger@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (7 children)

What did China "do" to Tibet in the minds of these people?

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