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Peace be with you, F-Droid Community. 🌹

As many probably know, Google will block Android starting 2027.

Here is my hope: Google has shot itself in the foot with this Darth Vader move, because many People who loves privacy will now switch to de-googled systems, because ( Since to my knowledge), the blockade won't affect those systems.

So this is just my Openion and my HOPE.

What's your take on this?

And I kindly say to all developers: Please don't register in Google.

There are so many people using de-googled systems now, including myself. Please keep going for us, and four you too. Please

Best wishes from Germany 🌹

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[–] Steve@communick.news 82 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I think you're overestimating the de-Google community.
I'd be astonished if there was 10 million of us. Compared to a few Billion normies, we're a rounding error in their accounting.

[–] beveradb@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd be shocked if there was even 1 million people globally using fully de-googled phones tbh

[–] Steve@communick.news 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd actually guess it's roughly 1 million globally. +-20%

[–] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

TheΒ nonprofit GrapheneOS Foundation was founded in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, by Daniel Micay, Dmytro Mukhomor, and Khalykbek Yelshibekov in March 2023. It received large contributions from donors such as Ethereum developer Vitalik Buterin and Twitter founder Jack Dorsey. As of April 2026, the operating system had approximately 400,000 active users.

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obviously thats just graphene. i use e/os on my phone. not sure how many other distros there are...

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

LineageOS is a big one compatible with many devices.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, I would think that LineageOS has more users than any other alternative.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most Graphene users are still using Google, but in sandboxed mode. Very few, myself among them, are willing to put up with the downsides of no GPS

[–] tasankovasara@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Umm, I have GPS on my Goog-less main profile no problem. The other profile with Play (just banking, parking and employer-subvented lunch app) also does. So not accurate.

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

Other commenter beat me to it, but I meant Google Play Services, sorry for the confusion

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[–] VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A rounding error that many friends and family rely on for tech advice.

I actually got surprised how quick people around me reacted to remove/avoid the tracker before sharing url links for example.

[–] illi@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is anecdotal, but yeah. I once mentioned this google thing to my wife. She was due to change her phone and once I explained she was like "I'd like to have what you have" so she is now on a refurbished Pixel with Graphene.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Indeed. Users like us might think we are in larger amounts. But sadly enough we are the minority.

Same with Linux.

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[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Well, Chinese people have phones, and they don't have Google either. Surely there is a way out of all this.

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I tried to open up an issue (and did a PR) suggesting a developer strike as a tactic (IE open source devs adding their names to a list to promise to remove our apps from google play if developer ID goes through) on the KeepAndroidOpen repo.

The maintainers of that repo have been ignoring me to death since April. I was told by the maintainer that the project was "leaderless", but in reality it seems they're very opposed to a developer strike, otherwise my PR would've gotten more attention.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I work on an Android app for a small company. Google doesn't care at all about Android devs except if you're running a huge social media app or P2W game. I'm pretty sure they expect blowback from the OSS community and their plan is to simply ignore it.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

There are some really popular FOSS apps for android, that are also on google play. Things like tasks.org , all the fossify apps, termux, joplin, ankidroid, thunderbird / k9, and many more.

These being potentially removed from google play by developers due to a developer strike, would have more of an impact than KeepAndroidOpen's current top strategy, which is for users to mass email their country's regulators, which are easily ignored by either politicians or google.

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[–] dragospirvu75@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Motorola will release a phone with GrapheneOS in 2027, it would be a good pick.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

because many People who loves privacy

almost 12 of us ... i jest but seriously, everyone using Apple and >90% of Android users don't care. Google knows this and they just bang on about this being best for Android users to ameliorate any concerns around governance issues.

Even many supposed staunch, so called privacy advocates, will complain they can't change because banking or some such, so they stick with the status quo as every minor inconvenience is seen as an insurmountable wall.

So i expect some bloviating initially and then acceptance. In 5 years, no shits given (headphone jack, expandable storage saw the same sort of thing)

tl;dr press x for doubt (x)

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I'll be serving as the tester for a de-googled phone, hopefully, next month for my family. If all works within expectations, we'll be moving towards no google phone until the end of the year.

I'll be getting a Murena phone.

[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

That's great to hear. Good luck! I wish I could de-Google my family too.

I'm currently testing /e/OS from Murena myself, but on a Fairphone 6, not a Murena device. The system itself is fine. Takes some getting used to, but no problem. Hope you enjoy it =D

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[–] TIN@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think it impacts any system running Google play services, even if you're on GrapheneOS. Is that everyone else's understanding too?

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can't find the post, but I recall the Graphene developers saying this would not affect GrapheneOS because of the way they have play implemented. Play services on GrapheneOS is sandboxed, it does not have permission to enforce this check.

[–] Skyrocket0006@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

But it will affect GraphenrOS users if less developers will make FOSS apps because its harder to distribute them

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[–] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 month ago

well for one, you don't even need play services for all apps downloaded from the play store. and for another, even for the ones that do need it, play services run as an unprivileged sandboxed app, the same as any. so it can't enforce anything google wants because it has zero control over anything.

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[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need a mobile Linus Torvalds, one that's not Finnish-American.

Alas that's not happening.

[–] grayclouds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (7 children)

So they'll be like iPhones?

[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)
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[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is there a program or a way to tell what apps currently on ones phone will be affected by this?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

other people are posting their experiences with degoogling on lemmy and that's how i stay informed.

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[–] GotExx@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe it's time to consider SailfishOS as a real alternative to Android (which remains very closely linked to Google)?

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'd rather see non-proprietary mobile Linux like postmarketOS, Mobian, or Ubuntu Touch.

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[–] Newhere@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (7 children)

So, did I understood correctly that just getting pixel with GrapheneOS is way out?

[–] greatwhitebuffalo41@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Yes. Bonus if you get it used just make sure it's completely unlocked. A carrier phone is not unlocked and is a pain in be butt to get unlocked. I can't remember what instance it's on but there's a graphene community.

Edit it's !grapheneos@lemmy.ml I know some instances don't interact with .ML though

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[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

So, did I understood correctly that just getting pixel with GrapheneOS is way out?

I can't really say anything about that, sorry. I'm not familiar with GrapheneOS or Google Pixel. As far as I know, Play Services can apparently be installed in a sandbox?.... but I didn't quite get it either. So I can't say whether the system will be affected by Google's rules. Sorry I can't help further.

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[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but shortly after Google announced this didn't they backtrack and say they will let you install unapproved apps after changing a setting and waiting 24 hours?

[–] ximtor@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

An afaik undocumented workaround isn't exactly evoking trust, particularly coming from Google. Also wtf 24h cooldown to install shit on my own device?!

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They said that, but similarly with how they said they delayed switching their extension API after backlash (they'd break adblockers), they ended up doing it later on. That's what they're counting on here as well, unless there's a lot of loud backlash and this hits their bottom line they will eventually eliminate that option down the line imo. They have every incentive to do so.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I believe you may mean Darth Vader.

Also, I think everyone who was worried about this might have moved to a different ROM that's more privacy focused and that there may be some movement but it will show up as a blip for Google because most people don't understand and don't care.

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[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, since I never took time to master phone magic, now they are going to give me a push. Thanks, I guess

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[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I have developer mode enabled on my phone to get around this but it does force you to wait 24 hours.

[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'd love to degoogle but all of the state programs that I am in use Google and my emails that they have are in gmail. You don't get to have privacy when you are part of US programs.

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[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Someone probably going to break the lock like a week into it. You can just refuse the update until it does

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