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I'd be shocked if there was even 1 million people globally using fully de-googled phones tbh

A rounding error that many friends and family rely on for tech advice.

I actually got surprised how quick people around me reacted to remove/avoid the tracker before sharing url links for example.

Indeed. Users like us might think we are in larger amounts. But sadly enough we are the minority.

Same with Linux.

Well, Chinese people have phones, and they don't have Google either. Surely there is a way out of all this.

I work on an Android app for a small company. Google doesn't care at all about Android devs except if you're running a huge social media app or P2W game. I'm pretty sure they expect blowback from the OSS community and their plan is to simply ignore it.

I can't find the post, but I recall the Graphene developers saying this would not affect GrapheneOS because of the way they have play implemented. Play services on GrapheneOS is sandboxed, it does not have permission to enforce this check.

well for one, you don't even need play services for all apps downloaded from the play store. and for another, even for the ones that do need it, play services run as an unprivileged sandboxed app, the same as any. so it can't enforce anything google wants because it has zero control over anything.

what part of him being finnish-american has influenced his decision making?

Sadly yes

An afaik undocumented workaround isn't exactly evoking trust, particularly coming from Google. Also wtf 24h cooldown to install shit on my own device?!

They said that, but similarly with how they said they delayed switching their extension API after backlash (they'd break adblockers), they ended up doing it later on. That's what they're counting on here as well, unless there's a lot of loud backlash and this hits their bottom line they will eventually eliminate that option down the line imo. They have every incentive to do so.

I'd rather see non-proprietary mobile Linux like postmarketOS, Mobian, or Ubuntu Touch.

Is there a program or a way to tell what apps currently on ones phone will be affected by this?

Hi.

As far as I know, there is no program with which you can check this.

But, I know that for example F-Droid apps on Google-certified devices will no longer be usable, because these apps are not registered in the Play Store. According to the KeepAndroidOpen page, this will no longer work.

I want to add: According to the Samsung Galaxy Store Seller Portal, apps that are already installed will remain usable, just without updates.

Hopes, that helped.

other people are posting their experiences with degoogling on lemmy and that's how i stay informed.

Yes. Bonus if you get it used just make sure it's completely unlocked. A carrier phone is not unlocked and is a pain in be butt to get unlocked. I can't remember what instance it's on but there's a graphene community.

Edit it's !grapheneos@lemmy.ml I know some instances don't interact with .ML though

So, did I understood correctly that just getting pixel with GrapheneOS is way out?

I can't really say anything about that, sorry. I'm not familiar with GrapheneOS or Google Pixel. As far as I know, Play Services can apparently be installed in a sandbox?.... but I didn't quite get it either. So I can't say whether the system will be affected by Google's rules. Sorry I can't help further.