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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Did he buy into their hype claims of sentient AI?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Stop with the threats and just fucking do it. This shit is why everyone thinks the Dems are useless.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 minutes ago

It's not a threat, it's a plea.

[–] djsiete@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago

What will the senate do? Lol Americans and their pathetic signal politics

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago

Just like they told people not to clone. Mostly the rich are cloning to harvest organs for themselves. Hopefully their "AI" will fuck that up for them somehow.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 5 points 9 hours ago

This comment section is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Stop the investment, most importantly.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie Sanders sadly didn't get the message and wants the American government to own 50% of the stock of major AI companies instead, which means the government would have an even bigger reason to invest more in them.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has proposed a remittance tax on certain artificial intelligence companies amounting to 50% of the company’s outstanding equity interests. Sanders says these equity interests could be used to establish a sovereign wealth fund, with annual direct payment distributions to Americans

What the fuck are you talking about no he doesn't lol? None of what you said is true or makes sense. He wants AI stock wealth to be given back to the people.

There is nothing in there about the government owning the stock or even benefiting from the stock?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure what's up with the hostility and calling everybody here dumb, but the page says stock.

The remittance would comprise equity interests, which for a corporation, would mean stock.

Bernie says stock:

through a one-time 50% tax on the stock of the biggest AI companies

And it would be run by the government:

seven members nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate

Right now that means Donald Trump and the Republican majority have the upper hand.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Because they're saying dumb things and unfortunately holding hands and being shy about someone's straight lack of thinking doesn't really get people to see the point. The comments in this section state:

  • Bernie is both not doing his job(he is) and benefitting from this/AI

-AI is both bad and worthless but also dangerous and Bernie is dumb for trying to do anything (complete fallacy of the weak/dangerous threat kind, the enemy is both weak but dangerous. Silly)

-Absolutely fake claims like the one above.

So the whole comment section is just rife with stupidity. Stupid isn't even a bad word.

Back to what you said. I literally don't understand why you act like it says stock changes anything or anything about what I said? Literally useless points you keep highlighting. Nothing is made more clear by whatever you're trying to say.

Donald Trump already had the upper hand he doesn't care about the rule of law. Dunno why you're viewing this like game of thrones.

Bernie Sanders wants the wealth amassed by these AI companies which have stolen data and work of billions of people across generations to be handed back to the people. His strategy is to tax the STOCK (not sure why we're bolding it but sure I'll play along). He is following the regular ruling that stands for creating panels, legislative bodies, committee establishment process. The president nominates THE SENATE CONFIRMS(because you glossed over that part) this is literally the standard practice.

So I don't understand what you think you're making clear or how what he's doing is wrong here. He's following the rules and wants to tax the stock of companies that have taken advantage of Americans. It literally makes complete sense and is nothing like what the comment above claims.

The comment above suggests the government will own the stock? Or something ridiculous and Bernie wants to give that power to the president. Which is what I imagine an insane person's interpretation of that article might be if they didn't know anything about government functions or something. So in conclusion, it's a very stupid interpretation.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 40 minutes ago

The "tax" just transfers shares of the for-profit companies into a State organization.

So CEOs like Elon Musk will keep using them as CSAM generators, while the State is incentivized to keep them profitable... Even though we have no reason to assume they'll ever turn a profit.

AI should not be treated as "too ~~big~~ inevitable to fail" and yet here Bernie is.

The president nominates THE SENATE CONFIRMS(because you glossed over that part) this is literally the standard practice.

Re-read my previous comment. I mentioned the Republican-controlled Senate explicitly. Did you need it to be in bold too or what?

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Onward the Butlerian Jihad! No prisoners!

[–] popetackler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Great idea to give China a huge leap forward on the west.

[–] djsiete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

They already have a leap forward on the west, you're just blind to not see it

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This assumes LLMs to be a strategically vital technology, which it's often treated as with little apparent reason, highlighted again and again.

Moreover, Chinese models are commonly open and you can freely run or study them.

[–] popetackler@sh.itjust.works -4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Those are just the models that we know about

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is that conspiracy kicking in? Besides, it is still LLMs. Like, these text-generating things, not weapon-grade AI. The absolute worst they can do is be used to assist hacking, and modern models coming from the US are already very good at vulnerability detection and pentesting. Not to mention the best defense against that is not AI, but standardized and strictly enforced network security.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Security? In this vibeconomy?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Precisely. If we want to keep our systems safe, we need not an extra AI, but strict adherence to well-established practices. Vulnerability in networks comes from lackluster execution of well-known, well-documented security measures.

Leave AI as an extra level of pentesting, it already does such things brilliantly.

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

They bought the senate Bernie

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 16 points 22 hours ago
[–] joe@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Any pause will have to be a global treaty; the unfortunate reality is that we're in an arms race now, and despite Sanders' threats otherwise, I don't think there is going to be much will to pause in the US while China keeps developing.

And to be clear, I think it would be every wise to pause development and, afterwards, keep the pace slow. We know how to make "AI" more capable, but we don't know how to make it stay aligned with human goals. The technology is useful and isn't going anywhere, but that doesn't mean we have to develop it as quickly as possible without regard to the real dangers it brings with it.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Arms race

Woah, we're talking LLMs here, this is not a secret military technology. And China is very open about the developments made there - you can freely study and reverse engineer plenty of Chinese models, and see all the weights out in the open.

This whole race about them is, in my opinion, nothing but trying to pump the bubble even faster, churning the economy in the process and playing on gullible or self-interested politicians.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (37 children)

Any pause will have to be a global treaty

Which is why tech CEOs love to promote it. They know it'll never happen.

We know how to make “AI” more capable, but we don’t know how to make it stay aligned with human goals.

"Alignment" is almost entirely a myth cooked up by AI companies who want to make their word generators sound scarier than they are. There's no such thing: the next word generator generates next word. It's unpredictable because it's built that way. "Hallucination" and "going rogue", all poor terms and pathetic attempts to fearmonger and humanize, are identical functions to "working" and "aligning".

The technology... isn’t going anywhere

The "it's just inevitable" cliche rears its ugly head again.

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[–] the_q@piefed.social 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I too can say the right thing consistently with no meaningful action!

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 9 hours ago

Dumb comment.

[–] corbindallas@fedinsfw.app 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

oh good luck with that bernie.. while he's not wrong, there's too much money passing hands for this to be a threat

[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Acctually its the same $20 being passed around they have just really improved the speed and efficiency of passing it on.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today -1 points 12 hours ago

"I'm not gay, but $20 is $20."

Sam Altman has entered the chat

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If he can get senate action on AI then why can't he get senate action on all the other plethora of crap happening to us right now?

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 18 points 23 hours ago

He cant, but he wants to. Which is important.

We should never take something away from an action with good intentions, just because others want to stop him.

Thats not how we get the change in the end. Because someday it might succeed.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 9 hours ago

Why is he even bothering to do his job if he's struggling to do his job? He should just be shitty and useless like the others! /S

[–] nehal3m@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is playing into their hand. “Oh your tech is so amazing and powerful and must be paused!”

Nah. It’s a bullshit bubble that’s threatening to tear down world order, or what’s left of it.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't playing into anyone's hand I don't understand what the hell you're saying lol

[–] nehal3m@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ever heard of critihype? These companies are pretending their tech is so amazing it’s dangerous to create hype, and Bernie is perpetuating that marketing ploy by responding this way.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Again, I literally don't understand what you're saying. Not because what you're saying doesn't make sense but the conclusion you're drawing and your interpretation is absurd.

You are not only not right, you're not even wrong.

Yes they work to hype tech for investors. No Bernie is not perpetuating anything by saying this that's just so silly. AI genuinely will be used and make money and this tech isn't going to disappear, it does have value not this much value but it's genuinely cutting edge and will likely be in many industries. Bernie has no political or personal interest in that, he is stating the lawlessness and recklessness of this tech needs to be roped in by the government which is his job.

I literally don't understand how you got to your conclusion that AI tech is useless and Bernie is supporting it by saying this. It's just the thinking of someone whose brain has been rotted by the idea that AI=BAD.

[–] nehal3m@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

AI is just a boring tool to do boring things, things I use it for. I’m not a single minded ideological purist. If Bernie wants to rope in the shitty business practices by hyperscalers, say that. Don’t headline “pause AI development” because that is exactly what critihype is.

edit: by the way, you are putting a lot of words in my mouth. I never said or implied AI is useless, just that there is a bubble fueled by bullshit. You’re jumping to conclusions not warranted by the original comment.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

AI is literally a fantastic pattern recognition technology and has the ability to take complex information and visualize it in ways a human mind cannot. Those are pretty useful.

Not sure how you think what he's doing is critihype. Never put any words in your mouth. Don't understand why the headline, Bernie didn't write, has to be changed when everything he said is pretty true.

You did imply AI is useless you literally just reaffirmed that calling it boring. Never jumped to any conclusion, the conclusion I came to was that your perspective is goofy and literally matches the AI is both bad and dangerous. A bubble is dangerous.

[–] nehal3m@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Boring is not the same as useless. Again, you’re bending over backwards to miss the point. It’s like talking to a wall. Your personal incredulity towards my opinion in no way invalidates it, saying you don’t understand or think it’s silly is not an argument.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

As much as I dislike “AI” this is akin to stopping development of munitions. If we don’t continue to develop it we’ll be unable to defend against it.

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