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[–] T156@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Microsoft seems intent on pushing people to alternatives. Not only did they quietly remove the higher RAM recommendation, but now the OS is more expensive.

So what people are likely to get an underpowered computer that costs more if they have to buy a new laptop. On the tail of Apple recently releasing a relatively nice and cheap laptop to much fanfare, no less.

It sounds like we're about to see a repeat of the Windows Vista days. Where people hate Windows because it's slow and horrible, and it is slow and horrible because it's running on an underspecced machine barely meant to run the previous version of windows.

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

A year of Linux desktops indeed. I've switched PC and a laptop to Linux and guess what? Works better, faster, more secure and I fucking love it.

Never ever going back to Windows. I might run win10 in virtual pc, but never main host and nothing => 11

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 17 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

They're trying to kill the home PC. They'll have all of the computing power and we'll have subscription access.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

And they'd get away with it too if it wasn't for those damn Linux distributions.

[–] toadster@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

They literally said that's the plan. Consumers better fight back.

[–] Mataresian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Sure in terms in computing power. But Microsoft still needs you to be able to access a windows device so that they can push you onto their subscriptions. I think in this case, they think people will just cough up the extra costs to get windows. Of course at one point even regular people will consider Linux. And that is when Microsoft will break.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 13 hours ago

I feel like Linux needs to be just a little bit more accessible to the tech-illiterate too. It is getting closer but go show some uninitiated person a Linux forum where power users are talking about maintaining their system daily or weekly, the average person is going to still nope out. I run Linux and and Windows, but if Mac could run more games I'd think about giving them a try because they all suck in their own special way.

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Lmfao, here comes manufactures selling their own versions of Debian and Fedora. I bet we're going to see a rush of manufacturers selling blank no OS PC's with hardware being the only added on cost.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I have no idea why this makes sense? What about hardware getting more expensive justifies the license for software going up? Is this just because they can?

[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

They need the cash to fund their AI spending. There's no conspiracy.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Volumes are going to be down, but they want the same revenue, so they increase unit price, comfy in the reality that it will still be, percentage wise, not worth it for most to care. Will it make it unaffordable for some? Probably not appreciably more than the hardware is doing all by itself.

So in short, it is just because they can.

[–] hexdream@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

It makes sense in terms of opportunism, greed, and for laying three groundwork for a future where you do not own your own computer but do everything in the cloud (because that is where the power is). Remember the whole "you will.own nothing and be happy" thing... so same argument as when businesses moved from self hosting on site. Short version, they want you with a subscription for everything and they can control everything you do.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 18 hours ago

Pretty much. If hardware is constant lly going up and consumers put up with it, why not get a slice of the pie? It's not like an OEM buyer will reconsider just because of a few bucks for Windows, if they were going to buy anyway.

[–] djsiete@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Why am i hearing Linux music?

[–] wizardfrag@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The Tux trumpets are getting louder…

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

The lyrics are in C!

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago

I've been hearing Linux music for the past 9 years lol it's incredible how much it's improved as a desktop OS over that time.

[–] Argyle13@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This. Linux use on the USA is now over 10% in computers. And growing. I hope Europe follows the same path, but it is slow. Growing also. At home we all have ditched Windows years ago.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Really? I was thinking Europe would be leading in Linux adoption, kernel originating from Finland, distros like SuSE etc.

[–] Argyle13@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Saw the data here, on Statcounter: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/united-states-of-america. But now that I have searched it, it seems that maybe this spike is related to bots masquerading as Linux traffic https://www.pcworld.com/article/3204830/linux-didnt-actually-hit-10-percent-market-share-blame-bots.html.

Who knows, but indeniably, Linux is gaining attraction progressively.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 points 17 hours ago

Somebody needs to finally compose a Linux install music that's even more memorable and awesome than the Windows XP install music

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 16 hours ago
[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To me this is positive news. The less appealing Windows machines are, the better. Let Windows PC rot peacefully.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

While I understand your sentiment about Windows, this is how you end up in a world filled with iPad kids who become adults who accept technology that they don't own.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 18 hours ago

I wish that Microsoft licenses of Windows Enterprise to individuals, much like Windows 7 Ultimate. The lack of a good option is why I don the tricorn hat and sail the Masgravel Sea, RUFUS in hand.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

This is the way of the world right now.

"Oh no, things are going bad for us, raise prices so we will be OK when this dies!"

Screw the future. Sad times.

[–] kimara@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't expect my PC to become a better investment than my house - until the bubble pops.

Now I also know the feeling of buying something when it was more affordable. I can now dish out advice like "You should just buy fewer boba teas, so you could afford a PC like I did when buying it with my student loan."

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

Every RAM stick I bought in the past 15 years is worth more per GB now than when I bought it... If you bought RAM in 2008 the same is true, I just didn't buy RAM at that point.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 188 points 1 day ago (15 children)

More OEMs should ship devices with Linux as an option.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

OEMs: Sorry, best I can do is tripling the amount of pre-installed bloatware that I get kickbacks on, to not only offset the cost but raise profits more

[–] morto@piefed.social 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (13 children)

Here in Brazil, a lot of vendors are offering laptops with linux, but they do this just to offer a lower price, and put the most weird distro possible, that no one knew existed, so everyone who buys have to install their own os. The bad thing about it is that it creates a really bad first impression about linux on common users, who mostly end up asking the tech person from the family to install windows for them

Edit: another random fun fact: in order to offer a lower price, some brands around here also ship laptops with freedos, don't ask me why.

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[–] benny@reddthat.com 3 points 18 hours ago

Gotta pay off those data center loans.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago

BURN BABY BURN

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

So the computer without Windows/with Linux will be cheaper, right/ 🥹

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[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 49 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I am starting to thing this entire thing is some weird orchestrated pile of bull shit to get pwople to stop buyingPCs because its cheaper to use rented VMs with AI spyware built in. Just point your old "slow" compiter at the server in your browser (only spyware Chrome supported). Then they can DRM everytjing and charge subscriptions.

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[–] Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I would love if pc manufacturers would just ship laptops with e.g. Linux mint or fedora and just knock off the windows licence cost. I don't even mind if they have to ship it with bloatware, that's fine, as long as it just doesn't ship windows. Savvy users will just uninstall it

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's possible to get refunds for unused OEM Windows licenses in the EU.

https://en.refund4freedom.org/

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[–] starblursd@lemmy.zip 97 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Amid ram price hikes Linux has decided to double its license fee. It will now be available for $0

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

Thry want us to subscribe to computing.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago

Ah, yes. Decreasing market share in a shrinking market segment? Obviously, the solution is to raise prices!

Microsoft continues to be one of the greatest Linux promoters in the world.

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