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The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 1 points 1 hour ago

low effort post: it's a bit hot for namecheap in arizona

I giggle grimace at how the post says all that without even once addressing the moonwalking bear

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 1 points 1 hour ago

til amodei's married, and his wife is among the top advisors. she also has a rather stunning set of choices, including seeking money for a porn site (with what in summary appears to be a sensible goal) from epstein after his conviction

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The Patrick Boyle video on Leopold Aschenbrenner mentions some names we know like Jane Street Capital (bid for his common shares) and Dwarkesh Patel (recorded a very long podcast with him in 2024). Boyle is a former finance worker who thinks that this hedge fund was basically a r/WallStreetbets profile (pick a story, bet everything on it being true).

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Loved one just had an awful experience at a previously decent dentist. They've apparently started using something called Pearl AI that scanned the x-ray and highlighted things in bright red with a #/100 rating system, which they used to do high-pressure sales on her. Mind you, she's only ever had one cavity and that was in a wisdom tooth. Checked the website,and it's freshly slopped-up, too.

We're getting a second opinion. I wish this garbage would just go away

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

I regret to inform you, that this garbage was run by The Register a while ago.

It shouts out several friends of the sub, including @self@awful.systems, PivotToAI, OpenSlopware, Robert Kingett & Ludicity.

The point of the piece is that all anti-AI folks should just get along, and if we are to stand a chance against corporate AI we need to get over our petty grievances and reach out a hand to the racists, homophobes and crypto-bros and work together in the spirit of Open Source!

[–] corbin@awful.systems 6 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Liam's here, for what it's worth.

Torvalds' position is pragmatic: his interest is in whether it works or not.

But, of course, the chatbots do not work. In a pragmatic sense, they do not produce maintainable integrated code changes with low defect rates. In a societal sense, they do not replace human laborers, despite the delusions of management.

One of the most original and innovative OS development projects of the 21st century so far was Urbit, but it is closely entwined with cryptocurrencies. Urbit's original creator, Curtis Yarvin, has reportedly espoused some extreme beliefs; The Nation called him The Reactionary Prophet of Silicon Valley.

Wild way to admit no knowledge of Arcan, Fuchsia, etc. Honestly, even a basic overlay network like Yggdrasil can win an apples-to-apples comparison with Urbit. I feel like this is an instance of critihype for fascist weirdos; similar stuff gets said about Justine Tunney, another cryptofascist developer whose projects are sometimes silly and weird. Doubly weird for those of us who know about Urbit's internals; Urbit originally was not a cryptocurrency project and it used to have non-Yarvin/Tlon forks.

It's an overly simplistic way to reduce a complex and nuanced situation, but one way to consider this is in terms of pro-AI and anti-AI, versus "woke" and "anti-woke."

More seriously, add a third dimension, a Butlerian dimension, to the political compass: to what degree may your automated devices appear to be human? One extreme is Asimov-style transhumanism and the other extreme is Luddite loom-smashing. However, recognition of this dimension doesn't negate the other dimensions and we shouldn't work in cooperation with fascists.

[–] fnix@awful.systems 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

More seriously, add a third dimension, a Butlerian dimension, to the political compass: to what degree may your automated devices appear to be human? One extreme is Asimov-style transhumanism and the other extreme is Luddite loom-smashing.

The luddites smashed looms not because they were inherently anti-technology, but as a means of industrial action in a time when labour held no formal power at all. As you say yourself, the issue with AI is that it doesn't even work as advertised; industrial looms worked fine. «AI»'s biggest problems are the enormous waste, ecological damage, enshittification and labour discipline that it incurs. If Silicon Valley was actually building Data, the debate would be different, but this dimension seems mostly theoretical for now.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 3 points 11 hours ago

One of the most original and innovative OS development projects of the 21st century so far was Urbit

So innovative, it even has a fandom!

https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Urbit

(snerk)

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Liam's here, for what it's worth.

I almost wrote down, it sounded like it was written by a lurker on techtakes. The overlap of takes was just so damn high.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 4 hours ago

you made me look

But I feel that as time moves on, the level of future shock will subside

fuck of a thing to “just” shrug all the criticism off simply as future shock

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We Need To Talk About Leopold | Patrick Boyle yt

My suspicion is that 'Situational Awareness' is the most referenced and least finished document in Silicon Valley since the Terms and Conditions.

The essay went viral among tech executives when it was released and Tim Ferrris crowned Leopold the Nostradamus of AI, which is more fitting than Ferris probably intended

New week new guy

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's depressing how so many (pathetic) software devs are taking their hands off the steering wheel and letting LLMs do all the driving. If you think software quality was poor before LLMs, there's no way it could have been worse than shit like this:

This became very apparent with GPT 5.6 Sol. It, too, was widely hailed to have near-Fable level intelligence. But I used it non-stop for a week and realized that they had mostly just dialed up the relentlessness meter to eleven, most likely via heavy RLHF.

Last week I gave it a small-sized auth ticket to work on, then stepped away. I came back later that afternoon and found that it had worked for 3+ hours and written 25,000+ lines of code. I skimmed over the code and it looked like a small fix followed by a massive number of additional checks around it, including static analysis tooling.

I gave it to another GPT 5.6 and said "check this code and see if it addresses the ticket". It looked at it and said that 98% of it was garbage and should be thrown away (its own words). I then gave it to Fable, which said it was massively over-engineered. Fable's theory was that the agent implemented the fix first, but then compacted and lost crucial context, forgot what the original task was about, and kept going. After many compaction cycles it was completely lost.

[–] schnoopy@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On one hand, this is awful. On the other hand, if I worked at a garbage tech company and my boss would not only pay me to sabotage the code base and spend their money but also reward me for doing so.... I mean that's an attractive proposition.

No for real it's baffling. What happens when your profession doesn't have a licensing board.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 2 points 11 hours ago

On one hand, this is awful. On the other hand, if I worked at a garbage tech company and my boss would not only pay me to sabotage the code base and spend their money but also reward me for doing so… I mean that’s an attractive proposition.

Before, sabotaging your competition was difficult and legally risky. AI fixes this - now, your competition shall sabotage themselves, leaving you free to focus on other things.

[–] lurker@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago (9 children)

My unrealistic sicko fantasy: that Torvalds pulling the big ol slop lever drives enough oppositionally defiant (positive) people away from Linux development that alternative OS devel gets a serious boost.

A question for the wise: what comes after Linux?

[–] macroplastic@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would be cool if Redox os gets more popular, they have an explicitly anti-LLM policy. Microkernels are neat, and I enjoy Rust. I think it's an unfortunate truth that everything in the future will still have to be Unix-y with compatibility layers to support existing software.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

This looks rad as hell. I had no idea Redox was so far along!

[–] anise@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That article is a ray of sunshine

[–] anise@awful.systems 2 points 22 hours ago

plan9 on riscv(or sparc or subleq or whatever) is also truly what I want for the future. It obviously won't be what happens(most likely linux will stay, maybe one of the less slopped bsds will take over) but please gods please

[–] EFreethought@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

The irritating part of all of this is that after 20 years we finally have a (very) few companies that sell machines with Linux pre-installed. The only thing I ever learned from installing OSes is that I hate installing OSes.

I would love to boycott all software that accepts garbage [1] contributions, but I do not think that is practical. I think I might have to settle with just refusing to use it myself, and wait until everyone realizes that gen AI is just a bad idea.

Note 1: Satya Nadella said he did not want people referring to AI as "slop", so I will grant his request and refer to it as "garbage".

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Somebody writes a low-level kernel for Emacs and the revenge of the Lisp machines begins

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[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

Vindicate Tanenbaum in the greatest Usenet thread in os development: make it a microkernel.

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[–] samvines@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

Zuck - "look guys, us too, we are super relevant and super important... Over here guys... Please be my friend... 🥺"

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (7 children)

RiP Old! SneerClub which is now behind a login wall on Reddit. Fortunately we backed up its earliest posts. I don't plan to check the site regularly.

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