Technology

Keep it as long as possible, the new shit suuuucks, is built to break & riddled with adware.

Back in my day ;) we had to worry about keeping up with the newest tech because you needed it for the best games or whatever.

These days, my desktop from 2014 can run all of the new games that I want to play (yes, even the demanding ones) It has 32 gigs ram and a 1660 Ti. That's really all I need, especially since most of the games I enjoy AREN'T new.

My steam deck has become my all in one. Sucks memory card prices have leaped the past year. But I got a couple terabytes, so I'll be alright, just going to have to shuffle them around. But I'm cool with not having 240 hz 4k on Powerthirst settings. I got a back log anyways and a yard to get back into shape.

its nvidia and AI creating a bubble on the belief they'll be able to get profit and get out before it pops.

But all it is.. is imaginary money going around in circles. nvidia invests a trillion in AI, AI buys a trillion dollars of nvidia videocards from some nebulous point in the future where they arent made yet, nvidia invests that trillion back into AI, AI uses it to buy ridiculous amounts of ram that wont be made for years, RAM invests it back into AI, and on and on they go, generating imaginary money and value, by buying imaginary things.

under a sane government this would be investigated as raw stock manipulation and fraud

I really hope when this bubble pops nvidia is destroyed in the process along with the AI companies.

and they’ll just age out of usefulness.

Nah, we'll stall on this generation. Even if a new one is released, very few will pay the extra when games would alreadyhave to start becoming RAM optimized again. Even Windows just dropped their 32GB recommendation.

Without the recommendation being met, people weren't buying windows PCs, so lower the requirement and people will buy more computers and more copies of windows. Which means they always could have just optimized better if they felt pressure.

Games will 100% do the same.

Which could be a huge thing for rational companies right now.

The big hurdle to domestic production is you'll spend billions and by the time it's built it's "last gen".

Instead of useless data centers, we could be building up domestic chip production, confident it will still produce top of the line chips when it goes live.

A literal golden opportunity, more so if China goes after Taiwan finally, you'd be the only international supplier.

As far as I know, no country is doing it tho.

They aren’t PC components. They’re server GPUs.

They don’t even have ROPs anymore. There was a time when the Nvidia P100/A100 could technically game, but that’s generations ago.

FYI, during the crypto busts, Nvidia bought back GPUs and basically incinerated them to keep demand for new stuff up.

…I’m pretty sure that’s what they will do again.

PC components flood the market

*Server-grade purpose built AI components flood the market

Just like how GPUs became cheap and plentiful after mining crypto became passé, right?

HBM and Vera Rubin are not useful for PC Gaming, at least not for current architectures. Main issue is that DDR5 production simply got cut to make more HBM. But there will be a huge amount of LPDDR, NVME / SSD drives and refurbished Hard Drives available, and hardware for running inference at home for pretty powerful models will become cheap as fuck, liberating us all from the hyperscalers; the open weights models from china are available for everyone.

At least i pray it will be this way.

6 will actually be "RAM suppliers buy the stock in bulk and sell as refurbs, keeping prices up"

I want to believe

how will the vibe coders survive this?

please, will somebody please think about the feelings of the poor vibe coders :(

Half the joke of the AI bubble is how American firms prioritized brute force over efficient engineering.

OpenAI has a deal with Samsung and SK Hynix to purchase 900,000 DRAM wafers per month, or 40% of global DRAM output. These are just uncut wafers, accumulating in warehouses that serve two purposes:

• Prepares them for the distribution to data centers,
• Manipulates the supply chain to squeeze their competitors, who are left with slim pickings.

You and I are the victims of this until the bubble finally pops and the deal falls through.

It's because it's a Ponzi scheme. Huge amounts of investment dollars are being dumped into AI and anything related to AI. If you build any kind of chips that are used in AI datacenters, you suddenly have a bunch of money invested in your company. What do you do with it? You make a deal with OpenAI (or one of the other ones) that you'll invest that money into them if they agree to buy a bunch of chips from you. Now you have revenue on books and are showing a reasonable return on that investment.

If you were a chip manufacturer and actually believed that there was a big future in AI, you'd be using those investment dollars to build some more chip fabs. And some of these companies are doing that. But overall, moving money to another company so they will order chips for datacenters that aren't built yet (and may never be built) is just bubble ponzi shenanigans.

Computer hardware depreciates in value very quickly. You don't buy hardware today so you can install that hardware in a datacenter that won't be online for another year.

Your bank account certainly will be.

That said, if you buy refurb you can put together a decent rig on a budget.

At least till they decide the AIs all need faces 🤣