The prosecution is scared shitless that the concept of Jury Nullification will become mainstream, and if the Cirizens realize they can just release anyone they want to, then MAGA won't be able to win their bullshit cases.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Let's be honest, you'll never get a jury that at least 1 person doesn't vote guilty, so it would be a hung jury. Thus he would spend life in prison blowing through all his families money continuously going back to court getting tried for murder over and over. He'd die in prison and his family would give up on him eventually because face it... The system already beat him.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

In practice that's now how hung juries work, even for high-profile cases. No DA wants to have the shame of repeatedly trying the same trial, even if double jeopardy doesn't apply. At some point it looks to the voters that you're just wasting taxpayer resources.

Instead what tends to happen is that the charges get less severe with each trial, and that the defendant gets a better plea offer each time. For example, maybe Mangione gets a hung jury for the capital murder trial. In the next trial they charge him in a way the death penalty isn't on the table. If first degree murder fails, the next trial they charge him with second degree murder. It becomes easier to get a conviction with each trial, as jurors are less likely to practice jury nullification as the stakes of the trial decrease.

Eventually the defendant just accepts a plea deal. Every trial is still a roll of the dice for the defendant. If he kept getting hung juries, maybe eventually Mangione accepts a plea deal for manslaughter.

No one wants to do infinite trials. The prosecutor doesn't want to seem weak or a waster of taxpayer resources. The defendant doesn't want to keep rolling the dice with their life. With each passing trial, the charges decrease. With each trial, conviction becomes easier. Eventually the defendant just accepts a plea deal to eliminate the possibility of spending the rest of their life in prison.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

The prosecutor won't care if it wastes tax dollars or about the image of the case having been hung. Trump will publicly smear the jury members on live television that dont vote guilty. Fox will call them all leftist terrorists who are a threat to our country.

[–] SleeplessCityLights@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This DOJ does not give a shit about optics, they control the optics. They will just do infinite trials.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They don't care about optics? Really? The same guys who lie whenever an ICE shooting happens to immediately portray the victim as a criminal? The same guys who changed the names to the Department of War and the Gulf of America? The same guys that launch political prosecutions they know will never succeed (like the reflecting pool cases), just to sooth Trump's ego?

These clowns are void of substance. They're nothing but optics.

[–] DioramaOfShit@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

Can't be tried for a crime more than once. Otherwise oj would be in prison.

[–] decolo@piefed.social 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

'cause it's going to be a kangaroo court

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 hours ago

He tried to eat my ass for a bag of coffee!

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I hope the trial is on Opposite Day.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

If you saw someone murder a healthcare CEO, no you didn't.

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They should start using the surveillance arguments here. "If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide."

I want to hear the Prosecutors arguments against that.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 8 hours ago

No no no! That applies to you! For me it is air gapping and ironclad encryption! For you it is literally a doxx in every boxx (whatever that means).

[–] Technoworcester@feddit.uk 12 points 13 hours ago

https://people.com/luigi-mangione-wants-murder-trial-broadcast-live-12034912

Article link

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

cant game the judge with all eyes on the show

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 26 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Appreciate this post but can we generally share links to articles instead of just screenshots.

[–] Technoworcester@feddit.uk 3 points 13 hours ago

This. 100% this.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 32 points 16 hours ago

If YoU aReNt DoInG aNyThInG wRoNg ThEn YoU hAvE nOtHiNg To HiDe!

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 14 points 15 hours ago

Of course not. It's much harder to railroad an innocent person under public scrutiny.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 83 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

How many lives did Luigi save in the weeks afterwards when the health insurance companies took notice?

You could argue that on balance, he was actually saving lives. Just like soldiers do in war. Just like police do in the street.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 41 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

Just like soldiers do in war. Just like police do in the street.

Woah woah woah, use whatever justification you like, but you really shouldn't put criminals and murderers on the same level as actual heroes like Luigi Mangione.

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[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 20 points 15 hours ago

Reading your comment be like

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 44 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

We also don't know that it was Luigi. It was someone for sure, but Luigi could easily have been framed. Circumstances were a bit too perfect and the chain of custody of the evidence was all messed up IIRC

Not saying it was definitely someone else, but I reckon there's reasonable doubt.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Also the 11‑Minute Bodycam Gap.

"The “gap” refers to an approximately 11-minute period during Luigi Mangione’s December 2024 arrest in Altoona when Officer Christy Wasser’s body camera was turned off while police transported him and/or evidence from the McDonald’s to the police station."

https://www.crbcnews.com/articles/693cd8e8d9a90023d32e158f

11 minutes sounds like exactly how much time it would take to plant fake evidence.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

Luigi and I were playing Mario Kart at the time.

[–] vogi@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Okey, but why would they choose to frame somebody that hot?!

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

OJ got this. And I bet Luigi won't try to publish a stupid book called, "If I Did It." Not that the judge will let him get anything that helps, probably.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

Back then, I worked for the music division of the company that published that book, and they had our department pitch the audio book to record stores.

Literally EVERY single retail buyer said "Fuck NO," and I didn't push back at all. I didn't sell one copy in my region, and when HQ tried to harass me for not pushing it, I told them that I asked, and was told No. I did my job, now fuck off.

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