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[–] unspkbl_horror@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I mean, I'm glad he said it but anyone who's been paying attention already knows this. The entire country is collectively waiting for the bubble to burst as it is. You also have to separate things like Machine Learning from LLMs. Two totally different use cases. They've not even clearly articulated any end goals. Even NASA had 'put a man on the moon', not just 'more space'. From what I can tell their goals boil down to either 'make money' or 'make God'. The former works great for individuals but not a whole class of technology and the latter would surely not garner trillions in investment dollars. LLMs are certainly great productivity tools but what is their goal really for a CEO to be able to fire their entire staff so they can sit down at a computer and type in 'make my business better' and they think that'll work?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's changed the price of RAM, that much is assured.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And SSD’s and HDD’s. Made pretty much all new computer hardware much more expensive.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

The whole world is lying because that's how we get fucking money. What a stupid hole we've dug ourselves.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The story itself is pretty ridiculous. He starts with a conclusion, and then looks for stories to support that narrative. What should happen, is first establish criteria to measure if an AI project has been successful or not and then measure projects against that criteria. Instead the author uses anecdotal stories of projects he has heard failed, so it must all be wrong.

Not one mention of the advances in medical research using AI, because it goes against his narrative.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If you read the article, he talks specifically about that. The people using AI for real shit, like protein folding, can use it to improve their work, because they're experts at it, and know when the AI is fucking up. The AI helps, but could never, ever, replace them.

The other question Suresh implicitly raises is: "How can you reconcile the failure of AI in the enterprise with the individual claims of skilled technologists who insist that AI is helping them do great work?" The answer is that these AI users are "centaurs" – experienced workers who are assisted by automation on terms that they set for themselves.

Thanks to their skill and experience, these workers possess discernment, the ability to tell good code from bad, and (more importantly) good uses of code-generation tools from bad.

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Give some anecdotal stories of AI advancing healthcare.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I see research, no advances.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

If you don't recognize advances in research as a benefit, I'm done. Thanks.

[–] abc@suppo.fi 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna go ahead and assume that Doctorow's actual stance isn't as idiotic as the title suggests.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The stance is that chatbota aren't essential to the economy the way smartphones or computers are.

[–] abc@suppo.fi 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, that's a much saner take than what I imagined from the headline.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

stupid is the new normal. act accordingly

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago

Here's a link to the exact same post on Cory Doctorow's (tracker-free) blog: https://pluralistic.net/2026/08/01/dare-snot/#i-will-fucking-piledrive-you-if-you-mention-ai-again

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Work keeps insisting we use it and I keep telling them to fuck off.

I get more done than my colleagues BECAUSE i don't use the not-actually-AI "AI" tool.

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[–] belochka@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, the article actually says that they are not lying.

But the truth they are telling is that this kind of tools is like Yuuzhan-Vong assistants in Star Wars NJO era. It's just further in the direction of auto-complete and recommendations.

That's good. It also means that a real job can't be "done by AI".

It's another kind of data compression, in a very fundamental and general way.

It accelerates the most things that shouldn't be done at all. Boilerplate code that's written again and again because of wrong processes, which are taught as standard way of thinking and doing development. Other things that could be a higher-level programming/markup language or a library. Just a frontal way of solving things that were done by hand.

That's useful, one can't do everything by hand.

Just - things that require real human decisions, understanding, responsibility, choice, or semantic and semiotic context that has formed in the course of one's own life for like 20 years - that they can't do. And that's what forms a professional. They can extrapolate stuff that doesn't matter.

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[–] graynk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

I'm so happy everyone in the comments is engaging in a thoughtful and informed manner and not just spouts uninformed nonsensical talking points from both sides to see who can shout the loudest.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

AI has been helpful for my job, sure, but the cost in terms of societal damage is so great it makes me wish AI were never created.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I can't say AI hasn't changed how I work, it has. Instead of going to Google, vendor docs, or the manpage for whatever code or system I am working on I will ask Claude or Gemini to take a stab at building the initial pass of the code or to look up what some cryptic error code means for me. Or even a better way to write some code that I think can be more concise.

The key I think is I never let it make the final decisions for me. The workflow is always look up information > shows it to me > ask for permission to do the thing > do the thing.

But none of that is "changing everything" in the way executives and the Sam Altman's of the world want to profess. It is just a sometimes more efficient for me way of doing the same thing I was doing before.

A lot of people I have seen that crow about how they are using AI to change their work lives are just doing really fancy Github workflows and actions to automate something they used to still do manually for some reason. They rarely are doing anything that couldn't be done with the time to research and test without AI.

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (10 children)

In my academic field of sustainability, AI still fails to explain what economic sustainability means. It's very simple.

I lecture and explain to my students that economic sustainability is about how we assess and manage our knowledge, innovations, wealth, and other man-made capital. I stress that it is ABSOLUTELY NOT profit and revenue.

Sure enough, my students submit assignments clearly written by AI that state economic sustainability is profit and revenue.

AI is regurgitating decades of green-washing and even bad academic articles that state economic sustainability is about profits. I use that AI god mode site to test several AI's at once and they've consistently gotten this wrong for 3 years.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

AI would be great if(currently its mixed for me,and whats the best thing you can do ATM ):

  • The Datacenters didnt drain like 3 oceans and half of the power grid(or used solar energy + air cooling only,the only way to solve this is Local LLMs currently or specific AI solutions that isnt ChatGPT or Gemini and so on. )
  • the LLM is not trained on copyrighted data(non-public domain) and not Paying the artists or not ask the original creator to train on their work.(Local LLMS partially solve this,and this requires specific LLMS too.)
  • People did not use AI mindlessly to write Code for you(well i think this requires the user to use their brain)

and so on...
and AI should stay as a "TOOL", not a full replacement for human work like most sane people do.
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i forgot to mention AI is a big contributer to the AI crisis.

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