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[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Guy who is cool with lesbians but draws the line at Greeks

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

Like the line cook who supports trans rights in a misogynist way

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

(No idea what his opinions on lesbians were lol)

Much like the racist dad in fiddler on the roof

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Funny thing is the guys mustache identifies him as leftist not as a nationalist

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

He just hates Greece for missing their shot at communism

[–] Krinkil2705@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Famously known as "Mahir Çayan stache".

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I heard he was copying Stalin to drive home that he was no trot but I have 0 idea if that is true or just urban legend

[–] Krinkil2705@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe, my Çayan/THKP-C lore is weak. We should ask it to Bartu Bölükbaşı.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

translation:

Grup yorum (band interpretation or band commentary)

who is part of grup yorum, when was it founded, what are their songs and opinions?

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

they seem pretty hard...core....

[–] Krinkil2705@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

They used to be big in the leftist sphere. Now they hold rather conservative beliefs. Many of their old songs are still bangers though!

[–] greenmonster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

is there such a thing as a leftist nationalist?

[–] replaceable@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Krinkil2705@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] loaExMachina@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Admittedly, I didn't watch the 1 hour 32 minute video, but from skimming through it it seems to be mostly about the US and USSR. But natonalism has a meaning that is neither just patriotism or the type seen in far-right parties of the imperial core and Russia.

"Nationalism" initially means thinking that a group of people constitute a nation and should have self-determination. It is sometimes said to have come from the French revolution, as the French both used it at home as a uniting factor to replace the discarded authority of the king and keep holding the place together, but also as a dividing factor in wars abroad, as France was mostly fighting Austria through the Austrian netherlands (present day Belgium) and Austria's various vassals (multiple principalities along the Rhine plus the ltalian kingdoms). So when France occupied some place, anti-austrian grudges were fanned and independant "sister-republics" were formed. After Napoleon came into power, it was more kingdoms rather than republics, but the system more or less stayed, and after his final defeat, Austria got to claim a lot of territory back, but not everyone was happy to return to this.

In the following century, "nationalism" is more or less synonymous with "independantism", with sometimes also the idea of reuniting with people of the same "nation" living under a different "state" (eg Poles partitioned between the Prussian, Austrian and Russian empites). The Russian, Austrian and Ottoman empire, which both englobes many nations, were particularly threatened by the rise of Nationalism. The two later were broken after WW1, while the prior... Resolved its inner contadictions on a different way that I assume we're all familiar with.

Anyway, after that point, most nationalist movements in the global north are mostly "supra-nationalist": Their nation already has a self-determined state. But some think this state doesn't reflect their nation enough, either because there are too many people inside that don't belong to the nation (according to them) and sould be excluded, or because there is too much land that should "rightfully" be theirs but sits outside their official borders. This, combined with anti-communist reaction and the imperial boomerang bringing back home some of the methods invented to oppress the global south, leads to fascism.

BUT in many places, "nationalism" kept its original meaning as a people seeking self-determination. Irish nationalism, Puerto-Rican nationalism, Black Natonalism, and of course, many decolonial movements like in Algeria used this word. It's in this sense that Frantz Fanon wrote favorably of nationalism, which he sought was needed for African nations to get rid of the colonial yoke before they could build new ties.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Ho Chi Minh talks about nationalism as a liberating force against imperialists. Same goes for the Chinese United front and a lot of the early Chinese communists.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

Social chauvinists certainly exist but whether or not you can call them left is debatable

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Japan has some it's weird. National socialism but like for real

[–] orlando@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

tell me more about thus National Socialism.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

Say what you will about its tenets, but at least it's an ethos

[–] Krinkil2705@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Just leave making up the weirdest shit to Japan.

[–] Krinkil2705@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Currently Turkish people's main target is Arabs, Kurds, Afghans, and Pakistanis because of the ongoing asymmetrical immigrations endorsed by Erdog and his thugs. We don't have the energy to get angry over Greeks.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

So what you're saying is that it's the perfect time for the Greek to start eyeballing northern Cyprus.......

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago
[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

I'd watch the animated series

[–] greenmonster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is good. 🤣... this is a pilot. I like the dad.... he is focused in a way.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Who didn't invite me to the Isle of lesbians?