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what internship are you doing?
Stage 4: "I'm done. This isn't worth it and I don't actually NEED any of it! rm -rf / it all and wander silently off into the woods. Curl up on a mound of moss and watch all the things that bumble."
2 and 3 are the same and you're deluded if you think otherwise
The difference between 2nd and 3rd is about 24h
My nextcloud instance is on a managed hosting server and has been for the last 4 years. My homeassistant uses the standard raspberry pi image since I've had it for the last 3 Months .
(And yes I have to constantly withstand the urge to fully self-host my Nextcloud and reinstall my Homeassistant with a Gentoo base.)
Stage 4 clustered servers so k8s can keep the containers up and configured
Stage 5 GitOps
Stage 6 federated clusters on your buddies infrastructure so each of you have off site high availability. Or hardware squirled away at families houses.
Stage 7 OpenStack running on all those clusters, giving a seamless single-cloud experience.
Me transition from stage 1 to stage 2, nervously.
Just wait till stage 4 - I've got a 12u server rack, separate 6u networking cabinet, 80+ containers running on multiple VMs managed by multiple Proxmox nodes and all my infrastructure is transitioning to OpenTofu and OpenBao so I can spin up new VMs, manage the containers with Komodo, etc and all managed with single sign on. I've got ~$12k sunk into my local AI server alone. I have like 2 active users besides myself...
I won't lie. I've found myself peaking into corners of the house and thinking about where I'd install a proper rack. House just isn't wired properly for it, though.
I had two separate 20 amp circuits ran into a closet and threw an exhaust fan to outside so I save on cooling costs. Where there's a will there's a way!
Fellow stage 4 self-hoster here. Time to start a support group.
Not to be rude but isn't this just humble-bragging and a subset of Stage 3?
It's a meme so... Sure? I'd say the jump is from commodity hardware and manual maintenance to enterprise hardware, infrastructure as code, and high availability. It's a whole new level of pain in my opinion both in terms of mental fatigue and on my wallet
Fair enough. It feels like a difference in scale but not category, but I acknowledge that's subjective.
I'm at stage 3 now, and proudly so
Will any of your family members leave beta?
Stage 5 - you live in the woods and talk to a rock
I have Synapse(Matrix) on Nano Pi NEO in me CV :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
oh and by the way, back then Synapse was much worse. I created few GBs of swap on microSD to get it installed :>
Indeed NanoPi NEO is a lovely cute board. Who needs 64 bit? :>
When you spur of the moment decide to turn your gaming pc into a proxmox machine and then miss gaming so you end up down a rabbit hole of iommu groups to pass your Gpu through to a steam os VM to wrestle with Linux virtual display drivers so you can use sunshine to cast your games to your laptop
It eventually worked but you can quickly end up in a niche hell hole with little to no coherent documentation.
Trash guides is a gateway drug
Or you just spin up Games-On-Whales and have the same with almost no work!
Is it worth it after that's all said and done?
I'd love to power gaming in my house from a central server, but I keep imagining that it would be spotty and frustrating as hell.
Game streaming is good, but not perfect. It's useable, but you do get the occasional stutter, dropped frames, connection issues, etc. Not to mention increased input lag.
If you must have your PC in a different room, you'd be better off buying an optical hdmi cord. That's what I do for gaming on my TV after playing a few games through various game streaming apps and getting fed up with it.
The thing that I hate about self-hosting is that a lot of apps that could just be a plain offline thing are instead being designed to be super bloated server-docker things. Databases are not reasonably portable data formats.
This is why my self created apps all use Markdown files instead if DBs.
An sqlite database is a perfectly fine portable data format.
Or, and apparently this is crazy these days - I can just use a file that's in a format appropriate to what I'm trying to do, compatible with the simpler offline app it was made for, and then just use a more general purpose syncing method whether online or sneakernet if I need to do some kind of data transfer - as opposed to accumulating an ever expanding collection of server stacks that are just redundantly doing the same kind of thing anyway while needlessly adding an insane amount of attack surface.
SQLite allows for more efficient querying of data than doing it by hand, can enforce constraints on the data, and I can query it from my shell.
Of course it's not going to replace a commonly-used format for a domain. If no such format exists, it's a perfectly acceptable data format for data that's tabular in nature. And it can by sync'd/backed up the same as any other file.
I had my own Nextcloud and Home Assistant (on a raspberry pi) or years and they're awesome, but I really don't have a use case for specialized stuff like jellyfin or vaultwarden. I just slap my media and a keepass file on my Nextcloud and I'm happy!
lol at 'accidental' beta testers. I tell my family they're testing my shit
Isn't that what they're for?
4th is writing your own self hosted tools
i uhh yeah host abt 10 containers on an i7 laptop currently. in my small office (kids bedroom) closet. I do also have a 3tb storage available but its what I had … an external wd drive. sigh. i am nbr 3 huh?
I've been pretty happy in #2 for years.
"Wow these R730/R740 ear destroying rack servers are super cheap on ebay"
Had an R710 in my bedroom for a few years, do not recommend
Stage 4: code your own social network and run it on the ThinkPad under the stairs with a DB server in a wardrobe.. Fight scrapers and spammers incessantly.
What scrapers and spammers? You're the only user there.
Its the age of AI man. I had a scraper criple my VPS because I put a Maloja instance there (self hosted last.fm) and ot waspaging though a zillion cross reference links.
LOOOOL
I think I have reached stage 4: No hosting, off-site backup is on an external SSD in a locker at work
Only 27 containers? That rookie numbers... You gotta pump those up!
I'm currently sitting at 131 containers across 3 Kubernetes nodes, all bare-metal though, no virtualization.