this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2026
373 points (98.4% liked)

World News

57962 readers
1752 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world

Ask Historians !askhistorians@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had to reread that headline a few times before I remembered Massive Attack is a band 😑

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago

There's actually a story around the band name: during the first gulf war, around '91, they changed it to just Massive because they did not want to appear like they're endorsing it.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

They just released a song with Tom Waits called Boots on the Ground, great song highly recommend

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 1 points 1 month ago

They kinda did tricky dirty. But over all yeah.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 49 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Cuz ya know, if there's one thing Singapore is touchy about considering its long historical ties with the Middle East, it's Palestine and the fate of Jews and Arabs there.

Honestly, what do they care? Don't they have better things to worry about on the other side of the planet?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (36 children)

They care about enforcing censorship and keeping a lid on "politics" disrupting "social harmony". One again Palestine is an issue that unearths the deeper fractures and contradictions in a society.

[–] RustySharp@programming.dev 24 points 1 month ago

Also, guess which middle eastern country regularly sends their officers to train the Singaporean military? Hint: it's not Palestine

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

keeping a lid on “politics” disrupting “social harmony”

Also known as punishing people who talk back to authority.

load more comments (34 replies)
[–] NewDark@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago

Well, theres this really insane military power that they're close trading partners with that really cares about their little ethnostate vassal.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Don’t they have other things to worry about on the other side of the planet?

Palestine-Singapore is not that far away compared to, say, Palestine-USA.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I love Singapore, but I have a question. Would you ban a music band, if they waved:

  • 🇺🇸
  • 🇷🇺
  • 🇮🇱
  • 🇹🇼
  • 🇺🇦

Asking for a friend.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

According to the article, yes:

The decision is tied to Singapore’s policies on public speech, which prohibit publicly displaying foreign national emblems without a permit or exemption.

You can freely wave the flag of Singapore in Singapore, but for any other national flag, there could be a problem if you don't get permission first.

There's just a lot of weird laws in Singapore.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean as long as it's applied universally, I'm not completely against banning flags of other nations.

The problem is when the Israel flag is allowed yet the Palestinians flag isn't.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the problem is just having weird laws against freedom of speech, but that's just me.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I mean. Banning other flags in specific places seems like it could be appropriately applied but also potentially abused.

Not sure there is a right answer.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Why do you love Singpore? Genuinely asking as someone who visits the place at least once a year.

[–] giraffes@kbin.earth 23 points 1 month ago

Saw their show the other night in Korea where they showed the same flag. The whole show was epic and laid out a lot of uncomfortable truths. The whole show is here for anyone interested: https://youtu.be/mW_c909VqVU

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago

Massive attack is awesome, such a great experience to see their show. Much better than you would expect from a 35+ year old band.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

But I bet it would been totally cool if they flew an israeli flag.

[–] decolo@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago

When publicly stating alignment with Israel or Palestine, you have to choose if you want to be hated by the government, or the actual people on the street.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It always amazes me how different people and entities are held to different standards.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Possibly, but unlikely.

Singapore has a lot of very strict laws, and they apply them rigorously. Famously their drug possession laws have a ton of prison time, and often the death penalty for trafficking.

From the article, it is a very narrow but all encompassing law, originally passed in 1949 and the last update in 2021 predates the most recent conflict...

The decision is tied to Singapore’s policies on public speech, which prohibit publicly displaying foreign national emblems without a permit or exemption.

https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/FNECDA1949

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Thank God, I've been worried about a massive attack coming from Singapore for decades now. I'm so glad their nation decided to support Palestine instead of invading us.

[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 13 points 1 month ago

Badge of honor

[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Love, love is a verb Love is a doing word Fearless on my breath

Gentle impulsion Shakes me makes me lighter Fearless on my breath

Teardrop on the fire Fearless on my breath

Nine night of matter Black flowers blossom Fearless on my breath Black flowers blossom Fearless on my breath

Teardrop on the fire Fearless on my...

Water is my eye Most faithful mirror Fearless on my breath Teardrop on the fire of a confession Fearless on my breath Most faithful mirror Fearless on my breath

Teardrop on the fire Fearless on my breath

You're stumbling down You're stumbling down

Written by: Andrew Lee Isaac Vowles, Elizabeth Fraser, Robert Del Naja, Grantley Marshall

[–] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

I haven't listened to to that song since I started listening to Cocteau Twins. Didn't even realize Elizabeth Fraser was on it, makes sense in retrospect.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Singapore has always given me the creeps because of the whole conscription thing. This just feels indicative of that underlying rot.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

They've only had 1 party rule, it's technically a democracy but it's as rigged as it can be without crossing the line into actual rigging.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I visit Singapore quite often and it's dystopian despite all the pretty parks and malls. The thing is it's dystopian but boring so people don't really notice it. The entire "country" is a tax and school haven for Asian billionaires, there's absolutely nothing else there.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh so Singapore is controlled by baby bibi too

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

I doubt it actually, they're just real serious about their crazy laws and there's a crazy law about no foreign flags.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are they still allowed into the Schengen zone? If so, the German government will have some tough questions to answer regarding its Staatsräson obligations.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The German government is apparently blocking EU Sanctions to Israel but that's because it's pretty easy to block things in the EU.

Making the EU actually do things (such as banning this band from entering the Schengen zone) on the other hand is way more difficult since the other ones can block it (which Spain would almost certainly do it on this subject and many others would do simply because they're against blocking people to enter the EU just because one EU nation's government discords with them politically - the bullcrap about criticism of Israel being anti-semitism has very little traction in most of the EU and apparently even in the German Justice system).

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Every time something like this happens we need a map with a country that changes color

load more comments
view more: next ›