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Why should my pc be stable if I'm not stable

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I boot my arch laptop once in a blue moon and update it. Its not 2002 anymore.

Ironically, it's the rolling release that's much more stable for me.

"Stable" distros often had a long and risky process of upgrading to the next major release.

Meanwhile, my Arch install has been pretty damn stable for over 10 years and went through several different PCs.

I wonder how many Arch haters have actually used Arch and ever ran into a breaking issue.

In my 8 years of daily driving Arch, I have had 1 ever, and it was only bad bc I didn't know of BTRFS yet.

That happened 3 years in, and I went on a new distro-hopping spree in between, trying Fedora, NixOS, and others, and they had actual problems. Not "oh an update broke my system and was fixed in a day."

So now I've been back on Arch for more years.

This whole "Arch is always breaking and takes so much maintenance" is a myth. In reality, Arch is the most stable, because it packages everything Vanilla. Everything works the "standard" way. On Debian, things decay, and then some stuff that's new breaks with some stuff that's old. On Fedora, there is a Red-Hat tax: configs in weird places, strange scripts, software missing from main repos (COPR sucks btw). On Arch, it's just "normal" Linux; and that works

My machines got borked every time I tried to do a Debian or Fedora dist-upgrade following the official guide, like 4 times total. Rolling updates on Arch require manual intervention once in a blue moon and haven't broken my system since I got rid of Nvidia

Sincerely, a Gentoo user.

I use EndeavourOS for my primary gaming setup and will sometimes go a month or more before I remember to update again. Even with a relatively modern nVidia card, it seems to keep up just fine.

That being said, every vanilla Arch experience has been a disaster by the end and while it’s not the same situation as the meme, you very much have to have a ton of prior knowledge to get a system that actually feels personal and by the point it’s personal enough, getting support for your setup is nigh impossible because it’s so bespoke.

OP never finished an Arch install

Has nix in their profile name and doesn't use NixOS 🤔 /s

wtf is this bullshit

and more importantly, why is it so condescending?!

Arch really is the "Linux" of Linux users, complete with non users making shit up about it.

Fedora Immutable Desktop users when Arch and Debian users fight about whose system is more stable. (I use Fedora Kinoite btw)

Linux Mint user here, I have no idea if Arc is that complicated, I don't care really. All I need is a rock stable system where I can do things like developing, or just use it as "a computer".

I reboot every month or three, and feel extra happy after any interaction with m$ windows.

Life's good 😊

This is a bit like saying "Honda Civics are Tamagotchis for car people" because there's a community of people who enjoy modifying them. The rest of us just drive, and they run perfectly fine if you're not doing a lot of invasive customization.

Arch is great for tweaking and customization, but it's also fine for a simpler use case.

Sadly that tells you something about the linux knowledge of the nixcraft guy.

If he would've stopped at making fun with pacman -Syu. You forgot a y and arch is not less usable than debian ..

I'm on opensuse aeon btw, I don't interact with the OS anymore. It's just there and works, like atomic fedora, I don't care.

Hilariously outdated take.

to open a python code

This tells you everything you need to know about who wrote this.

That's not a meme BTW, why is this even here.

I found Arch Linux to be less maintenance that Debian/Ubuntu, but then again I need to tweak every aspect of my system and both Debian and Ubuntu keep getting in my way. For example Firefox now requires snap on Ubuntu systems, and Debian requires that I maintain my own version of Pipewire if I want decent sound on my earbuds. Also Apt/dpkg does seem to break a lot.

I also had issues with Manjaro and SteamOS due to system packages being a version or two behind vanilla Arch, which breaks things when you install AUR packages. That being said I have used both Garuda Linux and CachyOS and I've liked both. They get that balance between not requiring that I setup everything myself, while not getting in my way when I want to tinker.

What about you? When did you choose stability over the rolling release?

This is such sloppy engagement baiting. If it was just a hot take shitting all over one of the larger linux communities, that would be one thing, but to follow it up with a "let me know in the comments" just makes it all feel disingenuous and like somebody is being sponsored by NordVPN or Incogni to post their ragebait

My arch system is so stable it's boring. Year after year, just runs. Doesn't slow down, doesn't install crapware.

So I dont know. I'm happy with it.

Stay away from the AUR and arch is fine. Calm down

Tell that to Valve.

i genuinely wonder where people are getting their information when they talk about linux. mass schizophrenic hysteria?

Unpopular opinion, but how about we take Linux seriously? Arch is a solid OS, unlike Ubuntu, but it's still much more manageable than say Gentoo or LFS. Get off your high horses.

In the past 3 years of using arch daily I've had to remove some renamed packages after an update once, thats about it

I've made ~6 Arch systems at this point. None of them have randomly broken on me, none of them have broken after an update and to be honest have been solid. I have no idea where the narrative of Arch being able to destroy itself at any point came from, but I don't think it's true at all.

ex arch user for 5 yrs

current fedora user since 2024

i've been getting a lot of "recommended" youtube videos on gentoo and nixos

send help plezz

I've done 'real work' on computer with arch my whole professional career. I need a working computer with reasonably up to date programs not 3 to 10 years out of date because debian maintainers can't be bothered. On servers it's another story and there ~~i would prefer rhel any day~~ i would use debian.

Never had a system breaking update. Idk what arch people be using.

15 year old install, one issue with crashes because of a regression in nvidia drivers that was solved after a month, I just rolled back till then.

Idk wtf you imagine people doing.

Anyone remembers Gentoo? ;)