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[–] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 67 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Canada population: 41.4 million

California population: 39.4 million

Greater Tokyo Area: 37.4 million

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Almost similar GDP as well

Canada GDP (2026): $2.51 Trillion USD

California GDP (2025): $4.25 Trillion USD

Greater Tokyo Area (2022): $1.82 Trillion USD

Wide Spread but still all in the low Trillions

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

California is inflated by Silicon Valley stuff. Maybe left-over Hollywood prestige, as well.

Japan isn't known for it's awesome economy, but it's surprising world city Tokyo is still doing worse than all of Canada including the backwaters.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

California also offers an agricultural powerhouse of productivity, oceanfront tourism, and ongoing techbro circle jerks.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

Oh right, a lot of produce that makes it up here is from California, although we've noticeably weaned off of it over the course of the trade war.

I did mention the techbros. If the bubble pops and geopolitics breaks the monopolies it end up a lot closer to Canada.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Doing Worse is subjective.

Higher GDP ≠ Doing Better.

The US has some of the highest GDP per capita on earth but that doesn’t mean it (or it’s economy, if you don’t define economy just as stock market go brrr) is doing well.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if you take out fossil fuel and logging out of Canada’s GDP if it still would be higher than Tokyo’s. Not much logging and oil drilling going on in Tokyo I reckon.

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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 6 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Biggest question.

Who wins in a street fight.

I wanna give it to the Canadians on sheer variety but I think California might win that one.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Canadian ninjas or Californian ninjas?

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 9 points 3 weeks ago

Surf Ninjas!

[–] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

1000% California. So Cal is mostly LA and NorCal is a bunch of granola outdoor survival types.

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[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 33 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

80% of þe population of Canada lives South of Minneapolis, MN., USA.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My wife's family is from northern Minnesota. When we visit my in-laws we like to joke that they're two states north of Canada.

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[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 13 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

there are too many people in Tokyo. like come on guys. there are other cities.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

The density makes life very convenient though

[–] comrademiao@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

I doubt you've been or lived here if you think it's very dense for a large city. Frankly its extremely spread out. Most buildings are quite short or single family homes. Compared to the skyscrapers of Chinese cities, its a lot closer to American suburbs.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So Tokyo has 1 moose, California has 100 moose, and Canada is overrun by moose. Got it!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Only moose I ever saw in California palled around with a squirrel and constantly had beef with a Russian couple when visiting Universal Studios.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

I also used to live in a gang neighborhood. Tough times. :(

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, but also Mercator projection.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Does that mean Canada is looking for immigrants? A lot of us can help bring that number up.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The big map is misleading. The vast majority of us live within 100 miles of the US border.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ed, it's a startling revelation.

Canada, getting ready to invade, has amassed 90% of its population along its border with the United States.

The longest unprotected border in the world, stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to that other one.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That depends on whom you ask. 🤷 And how eager are you to live in a remote community?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Canada is always looking for immigrants, weather it likes to or not, it needs them

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

More than pretty much anywhere else, yes. It still manages to be heavily selective, though, mostly for highly educated/skilled workers and their families.

But also, yes, the population is heavily in the south. If you showed just the non-remote part, it'd be horizontal Chile.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

You made Saddam too small.

[–] yoru77@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

The more you think about it, the more insane it is, like... wow

[–] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

And people wonder why Japan's population is shrinking. (Wait, is it shrinking or did it stop growing?) Disinterest in breeding may be an innate response to overpopulation. In any case, Tokyo's population is fucking crazy and decreasing the number of people voluntarily and peacefully is a GOOD thing.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

COL in Japan in general is about as unhealthy as it is in California.

people are working themselves to death just to scrape by.

if governments want population growth, they have to siphon wealth away from their corporate overlords and nurture the working class.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Japan's population decline isn't really about cost of living so much as it is about poor quality of life/a stiflingly conservative culture. Terrible work/life balance, women still largely being expected to quit work when they have kids (and it being assumed that women will have kids, leading to discrimination in the workplace and limited career promotion opportunities), men still largely being expected the salarymen, etc.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I doubt the fertility rate is much better in the scenic, middle-of-nowhere areas. People just don't want kids, and now there's the option to have sex without them.

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[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Tokyo has more people than LA? That’s surprising.

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

The Greater Tokyo area has a population of 38.1mil, California has a population of 39.3mil.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You have clearly never seen Tokyo. It is excessively populated.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

tokyo firmly believes in stacking

[–] blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Makes you wonder why housing prices in Canada are so ridiculously high then when they have so much free land space.

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

do you want to drive 3 hours to work every day?

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Construction is the bottleneck.

On why construction is the bottleneck, you'll hear several theories, but just physically having land isn't the problem.

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