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[–] DonkeyStar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don’t even think Chicago makes the list.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Umm, what about California??

[–] LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

California City is a shithole why would you want that one

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oregon City ain't much to write about either, Portland would be a much better choice

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 1 points 2 hours ago

Zamn!! Alright, I've got it, uh, Kentucky!

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fourth major US city is Springfield. Which Springfield, you ask? Any and all.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They are all the omni-Springfield. Shelbyville differs by state.

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[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No one is arguing for Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh is just fine with that.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

pretty sure the only people thinking about pittsburgh are the ones suffering from pittsburgh.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

They got cool bridges

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Correct. The cities in rotation are Dallas (the capital of oil), Houston (the other capital of oil), Atlanta (the capital of black people), Miami (the capital of Latino people), SF (the capital of rich people), and DC (the capital).

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Denver is my city, but I don't think it qualifies.

I think Denver has a lot of great qualities - it is the home of outdoor/mountain life in the US, has the fittest population of any major city, is one of the biggest hubs of craft beer and cannabis, and is a significant player in tech, aerospace, and finance. Considering "Denver" to be the whole Front Range and I70 corridor, we are also a major military hub, the home of the olympics training center, and a hub for advanced computer chip design. We have a significant EDM music scene, the world famous Red Rocks amphitheatre, and world famous skiing at Aspen and Vail.

However, I can't imagine putting Denver on the list at #4 for major American cities - the biggest factor simply being population. NYC metro has a population of 24 million. SF: 9 million; Houston: 8 million; Atlanta: 7 million. Denver has 3 million.

That might be forgiveable if it were more influential in culture, politics, or economics - but it isn't. The political and economic power of Houston-Dallas have been the driving force in all the wars we've been in for the past 30 years: oil. Denver's biggest political claim to fame is making weed legal. Our urbanist movement seems to have stalled out, and as many of my friends have commented - the city itself is fairly ugly in most places. And Denver fails to have any kind of unique and distinctive cuisine, instead, having a food scene that is, in the estimation of everyone who has visited, quite bad.

The three major cultural forces in Denver are Mexican, Midwestern Nice, and Mountain Yuppie. All of these together tend to create culture that is diven and hard-working, but that also has other priorities (like family, work-life balance, and time in the mountains). But this also creates a culture that has less emphasis on relaxation, creativity, and social openness. I've often said that the reason Denver punches under its weight on food and night life is because the typical demographic you would see hitting bars and restaurants on a Friday night - young professionals with disposable income - are going to bed early to go hiking Saturday morning. And these cultural priorities (along with the general auto-dependence of the city) combine to create a city that is not particularly welcoming to visitors and newcomers, and which mostly keeps to itself on the national and international stage. And at least politically, I think this has worked out well for us as (Imo) we typically have extremely sensible legislation governing the city and state (compared to other cities and states I hear about, at least).

While I would love to see Denver grow into one of the great cities in north america, at present I see it as more of a character actor - a city that is known and relevant because of a certain aspect of itself, but which is not a major player. Thus, it finds itself in the company of cities like Portland, New Orleans, Austin, Orlando, Las Vegas, or Detroit - cities that a foreigner has a 50/50 shot of knowing about because of a distinctive characteristic they have.

[–] 42firehawk@fedinsfw.app 2 points 9 hours ago

There's also Portland, which now in recent years has become the city of trans people. But that's only from the last few years.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 15 hours ago

This is the right answer. Anyone can look at a list of populations. This is also a question about culture.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

[sad Boston noises] they only get to be on the list when one or more of their sports teams is doing well and everyone hates them for it.

[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Ah yes Boston the capital of assholes.

(Surprisingly, when I lived there, I thought people were very nice)

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Who cares about Dallas, Houston or Atlanta - do people actually go those places when they don't have to? I mean travel there by choice rather than necessity.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

My criteria wasnt about appeal, but influence. Dallas and Houston are the biggest hubs of cowboy culture, which is probably the most iconic American look recognized around the world. These cities define the way other US cities are built, leading the way in car centric design. And the oil industry is responsible for every war we've been in for the last 30 years.

Atlanta, in addition to having a large population, is a huge center for music, food, and civil rights, and plays an outsized role in national politics as turnout there can sway presidential elections and congressional balance.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one goes to Texas on purpose. Something has to go wrong in your life to land you there.

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

There are people who having decided to move there was the beginning of everything going wrong with their life, and i'm not even joking

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 6 points 17 hours ago

This is true. As someone trapped in TX, I know lots of people who moved here excited that they sold their [insert civilized place] house and can buy a mansion in TX. Golly geez, people sure are nice here. Then they realize why the house was comparatively so inexpensive. Then they learn the difference between nice and kind. Then they leave or wish they could.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 18 hours ago

Welcome to Atlanta where the players play, and we ride on them thangs like every day

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Philadelphia. Paddy's Pub is a landmark

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I bet it rotates between Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, Austin, Dallas, Seattle, and Portland, with occasional layovers somewhere in Florida.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Back to food the Detroit metro is right up there everything from great sliders, BBQ, Middle Eastern, Eastern Europe. If a food exists you're going to find a pretty great representation there.

Then there's the museums, the car culture, Motown, and now tech. Lots of shade has been thrown at Detroit but in 2026 if I was in tech or engineering it would be my first stop. Major sports teams, great jobs, the water, cool art deco architecture that all seems pretty great to me.

But WINTER

[–] MrGeneric@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The water? How close is Detroit to Flint?

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Flint is in the metro Detroit are but the water I was talking about was the riverfront and the islands just off the coast.

[–] lepthesr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Could probably throw Denver in there and atl

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Denver is much more likely than Portland or Philly

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

"America has only three cities: New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland."

Tennessee Williams

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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like Las Vegas takes fourth just purely from cultural relevance.

If it was by population then the 4th would be Houston but no one gives a shit about Houston.

[–] Stache_@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago

Oooo yeah Vegas is a good candidate

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 22 hours ago

LA, NY, ChiTown, Miami.

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