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    [–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 5 days ago (11 children)

    I first installed Linux in 1995, before I had a second computer where I could look for help. Compared to that experience today's situation is paradise. So you won't hear me complain.

    [–] homes@piefed.world 24 points 5 days ago

    Oh, I remember that. Red hat 2.0. Where you had to download the source code for all of the floppy discs, compile them, and then write all of the floppies. I remember it was 7 floppy discs, 13 if you wanted printer drivers.

    It wasn’t until Red Hat 2.5 that they had pre-compiled floppy images you could download.

    I went to one of my BBS friends houses in the early 90s and he had a giant book on how to install Slackware

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    [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 34 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    Whatever distro you're using is literally the worst one.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Not only is it the absolute worst, but you're also using it wrong

    [–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    also you shouldn't use that desktop environment that you prefer

    [–] Vincentmario@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago

    And actually you shouldn't use a desktop environment in the first place as you should be editing all config files manually as well as running your own compositor

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    [–] Pudutr0n@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (2 children)
    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (13 children)

    I feel like someone tired of hearing β€œit works on my computer” is how NixOS came about

    [–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)
    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Docker’s like β€œwell why don’t we just ship the client your computer then?”

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    [–] viertesauge@feddit.org 11 points 5 days ago

    "this specific issue wouldnt happen if you had just installed distro youve never heard of before"

    [–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

    Next time, install Cinnamon Mint !

    [–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    manual? website? all information is on a badly organised slightly hostile discord server

    [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Not even close, Linux users have been creating documentation long before Discord existed, and will continue to do so long after Discord dies. In my experience one of the most consistently great places to learn how to perform various tasks is the Arch Linux Wiki. It's extremely helpful and relevant even if you're not using Arch.

    If I were trying to get info about Linux on Discord, I'd probably find myself getting upset too. It's almost like Discord just sucks or something.

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    [–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 28 points 5 days ago (4 children)
    [–] notabot@piefed.social 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Back in the dim and distant past, when I first studied CS, we were literally told to run that as one of the first commands we tried. It's an excellent place to start if you have the time to learn unix/linux thoroughly.

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    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Is there a golden retriever labelled β€œrandom person on IRC with answers to all questions, writes a driver for you so you do t have to enter that house”

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    [–] khanh@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    i'd rather die than read a man page

    [–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

    Tldr is zoomer man pages and I love them

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    [–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 days ago (10 children)

    I find this to be one of those memes that's not actually based on facts but on feelings. If you ask a question that could have been answered by a quick search, or asked a very vague question, then sure. Otherwise, I find that the linux and FOSS community as a whole tends to be extremely helpful and patient. Yes, there are assholes, but overall the community is full of people willing to help.

    [–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah, I've found everyone to be kind, patient and helpful to me since day 1 - not a single bitchy reply that I can remember. Been using Linux for about 3 years now.

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    [–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 19 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    Tbf, those are sometimes valid responses, the new user just doesn't realize what they're asking is dumb, and it's exhausting to deal with when a bit of reading would solve the problem or show them what they're asking is impossible.

    [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    I used to be a mod on a forum for a fairly popular free program, and we generally treated even that like an information availability problem. Yes, we had an FAQ (and yes, sometimes even still people wouldn't read it), but when there were a ton of similar questions that were all answered in the FAQ, we figured that meant that the FAQ needed a rewrite for better SEO.

    [–] mirshafie@europe.pub 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    Ultra-rare sane person randomly appears on the internet

    [–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

    I'm not even joking, that's literally the best compliment I've received all month. Thank you.

    [–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago

    With the poor quality of the search engine results and the fact that information expires I very much disagree with this line of thought. Bit of reading solves the problem when you know what to read and understand what was written. It's very easy to spend hours reading all sorts of things (because you don't know exactly what you're looking for) and then discover half of what you read is now 3-5 years old information and no longer relevant.

    I know how easy it is because I spent days troubleshooting why my USB wifi stick wouldn't work. Most of the information I found was from when you needed to manually add the driver and was no longer relevant. What relevant information I did find, nothing matched the issue I was having. In the end I didn't care to bother anyone with a 5 year old wifi dongle because I'd probably run into people like you who'd tell me to RTFM before even bothering to understand the actual problem. Instead I solved the problem by buying a new dongle, one that I knew had been tested and worked. But someone else might have a far more expensive piece of hardware that they can't just replace on a whim.

    Let people ask their questions and if it really takes just a bit of reading why not take that 5 minutes to point them to the right place? How many days do they have to waste of their own before they're allowed to ask their stupid question that you could answer in 5 minutes?

    [–] fork@feddit.online 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    This. I had an issue a couple months ago. I posted on the distro's form with a much info as I could provide and some real smart people gave me a ton of help really quickly.

    Knowing how to ask and not being abrasive is really helpful.

    [–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 11 points 5 days ago

    Lol, posting what you read, tried, error codes, and what's installed and your hardware gives you a very high chance on getting a civil reply. It shows you're trying.

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    [–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 days ago

    PR are welcome

    Frankly if more software was like that we'd have these issues so much better. So many maintainers are so protective that they won't even read a bug fix PR and just close it.

    I use Arch, btw. You should have installed Arch too. It crashes sometimes and I got malware a couple of times, but most of the time, if I troubleshoot it just right, it'll show me my desktop. But, hey at least it's at the latest version and has the latest features so I can brag about it. But you should just use Arch, bro. It's the best, bro.

    [–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    But I have Hannah Montana Linux. What do?

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    [–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

    ”Why do you want to do that?”

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