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My brother in law made the switch last week to bazzite from win11. 8 gigs of ram, he wasn’t expecting much.
Now he’s amazed he doesn’t have to buy a new computer after all.
So freaking glad to see!
Let's go everyone, now's the time. Windows GDID is appalling and we deserve privacy.
I chose Fedora, but there's a distro for everyone and my friends use and love Bazzite.
been two years since I started using it daily, it's one of the best!
Bazzite is awesome. Not surprised it’s so successful. Congrats to the team. :)
While I see value in something as NixOs for the reproducibility. I do not understand what is the value in having an immutable system. I'm not saying there's no value, I just can not imagine a use case in which it is better than a normal system.
It protects against system breakage and malware because the core of the OS is sealed and updates can only fully complete or fully fail, you can't have a half-uodated system like Ubuntu would be if you unplugged the PC half way through.
And because your apps and commandline tools are sandboxed with Flatpak and toolbox/distrobox so malware getting in through one doesn't compromise the whole system.
So does iOS, but it's 'bad' to be walled garden there, but 'good' to be walled garden here.
iOS is a walled garden because they do everything they can to block third party app stores, and the "activation" process allows Apple to remotely brick your phone at any time. Immutable Linux distros don't have these issues.
A htpc in which you just need to launch media
A steam Deck like handheld in which you just want your game launcher
A PC for a kid whom you don't want messing around with system files
A PC for your technologically inept family members to just use as an email/browser/word processor
I honestly think the kid example is a counter example. Kids now don't understand technology, because we try to keep them so far away from how it actually works. I'm very technologically literate because I was messing around with my system as a kid.
It's the same as how older generations can take apart an engine, and most people now can't even change their own oil. We try to "protect" users from the technology, and they never learn how it works. No, they should be given access to break it. That's how you learn how it functions.
Because when I finish my 10 hour shift, get home from my 2 hour commute, to my 6 year old kid crying because she managed to fuck her Minecraft machine up somehow, I don't want to spend my only free half hour that day trying to work or what she did.
That's not a learning opportunity for her. Even if she had the patience to sit there and watch me try to fix it, she either get what I'm doing. And after getting up at 5.30, getting home at 7.30 watch how good I am at not just swearing at the thing instead.
That's a wholly different problem right there. Namely the shitty wages and unaffordable housing. With proper wages, you would have the time for your kid since it would then be sufficient that only one of the parent works full time whereas the other takes care of the kid and the house and stuff like that.
Rsync changes each week to a network share with an A/B layout, switching backup targets back and forth each time. Something breaks? Remote in, rsync back, by the time you get home from work it’ll be back as it was and running already.
What if you have a system that just works and you can't break?
No rsync, no remoting from work (vpn or other software et al), no "i gotta be on alert for when my kid breaks my computer again"
Also, why do we have to shame people for just wanting to use their computer?
Run an update on a traditional system, and pull the power plug out when it’s half way through. If it recovers when you reboot it, you got pretty lucky.
Now do the same with an immutable system like Bazzite. It will be running the pre-update image when you reboot it. No harm done. It’s essentially impossible for an update (or even a failed update) to brick the system. You can always roll back to the last working image.
I'll give my own nerdy answer, besides the "good for amateurs" one.
Personally, I'm pretty techy, but I use my PC primarily as a living room gaming PC. As such, keeping it working is paramount, although I can't resist tinkering with it anyway. I was afraid an immutable OS would limit my tinker projects, but I've found it to be a total non-issue. Even for complex tasks like self-hosting AI to play around with, podman has served admirably. Honestly, it gives me confidence to try more ballsy things than I would otherwise, rather than limiting me.
Additionally, I like the feeling that my core system is essentially unbreakable. Even if I ran sudo rm -rf, I don't even have the ability to truly pooch things. Similar deal for any virus or hacker that might access my hardware, you can't hide weird behaviour deep in my system, it's immutable. I've also crashed my computer a few times by blowing through my VRAM budget while tinkering with self-hosting AI, and such crashes don't scare me, I've got easy rollbacks if I crashed my PC while it was doing something delicate.
I'm even running the testing branch right now (I want earlier access to the latest Mesa, as it has bugfixes for the DOOM DLC), and I don't have to fear anything from an unstable branch. If it breaks, I can trivially rollback and switch branches to the latest stable in a few minutes, with immense confidence.
I love the assurance it gives, and the only thing it's ever blocked me from doing was installing my VPN client, but an OpenVPN config has done that job just fine. I'd consider switching to CachyOS, but the main reason I haven't is that I'd miss the comfort of my OS being immutable.
I like Bazzite because it has a bunch of optimisations for getting games runnin well, and because it disallows applications screwing with the system. If I really need an application that demands it's files be put in a bunch of places I can't audit easily, it can go in a toolbox and not impact the system, or I can audit exactly what it does and layer it into the system.
For a Linux newbie, I really appreciate a system that stays what it is, and doesn't let anything change that without my explicit approval.
Is the massive jolt in the room with us?
I have a tens unit attached to my ass that has its voltage increase as bazzite gets more users
I feel like it may not overtake KDE, from the graphs the trend seems to somewhat be following there too recently. Like a bump in number of downloads because of popularity, but not a linear trend. Does that even make sense?
Isn't that like comparing apples to oranges? Bazzite is a distro and KDE is a DE
by KDE is meant Fedora KDE. Thought it would be obvious since the graph is labelled that way, i guess not.
