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[–] drath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Pretty much anything you might ever wanna do with a website, can be done with IE8 support. Rest is skill issue.

[–] zitrone@europe.pub 15 points 6 days ago

I don't believe, you should expect all browsers to implement all new web features in under a year. It takes time, like new C++ or C standarts. An like with all other standarts, the more parties are involved the more time it takes to adopt it.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Haha, one year? How quaint. (Cries into ISO C++ standards)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just don't create such a mess that you need cutting-edge features.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Cutting-edge JS is for boring stuff anyway. We've gone from formalizing the best bits of jQuery to 'click thing to make box appear.' So you're only avoiding tutorial-ass boilerplate, and quite frankly, boo hoo.

Meanwhile CSS is still in the "Jesus Christ why wasn't it like this to begin with" phase of feature adoption.

[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As if modern websites care about Firefox

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

As if ~~modern~~ websites care about Firefox

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

We used to have HTML+ and be happy!

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 135 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You can’t count chrome and edge as two different browsers…

[–] Xylight 55 points 1 week ago

MDN does, not my decision

[–] mamg22@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They keep them grouped together though. If you look closely, they're in the same bubble while firefox is in another one. Probably shows both for the convenience of most devs.

(also Microsoft being Microsoft might shoehorn in some feature no other normal browser would just because)

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's actually Google doing that these days, but they do it on webkit directly and so everything but Firefox gets their experiments too.

[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Chromium (or blink), not webkit

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[–] vogi@piefed.social 9 points 1 week ago

they are grouped and as they are different browsers that theoretically could have different blink versions I feel like it makes sense.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

You know what still works? HTML tables.

Suck it, all of the 2000s webdev.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 30 points 1 week ago

What's worse than div soup? Table ware.

[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even apple phones added flexbox support in like 2022.
Flexbox spam is the new tables.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

2022? That's in the future

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[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 51 points 1 week ago (5 children)

...Did you add an unescaped RTL toggle character on your user name?

‮</span></div>

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

For the record, I noticed because I use Friendica:

Header of the post in Friendica, which thanks to the RTL toggle character, reads literally: "XylightromuH remmargorP aív"

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Jeroba only flips the instance domain, that is way more wild

[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No issues in Thunder.

I have display names turned off, though.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's probably in the display name, not the username so that would make sense. Would be interesting to know what happens if display names are on

[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Turns out it looks the same. Wait, something is still wrong. I turned the setting on, but I still don't see display names. Oh well.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] plateee@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's it like being famous? 🤩

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[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Funnily enough, it is correctly escaped in the client he developed, Photon

[–] Xylight 7 points 1 week ago

it actually isnt intentional that it works fine, it's some miracle of how i split the instance name and the username in markup. i was a little disappointed that nothing funny happened when i added that initially

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 5 points 1 week ago

Call me unsurprised if @Xylight added it as a way to test for rendering errors across Fediverse clients

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[–] Xylight 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i do remember doing that a long time ago

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

Doing QA testing for free? You and lil bobby tables would get along great

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 15 points 1 week ago

By the way, if you want to replicate this effect for fun and profit, the control character you're searching for is U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE (or RLO for short)

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I strongly think Lemmy clients should have a toggle to show usernames instead of display names. Some of the Unicode is super obnoxious.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Some Lemmy clients like summit do (which I keep on, because display names are often cancer)

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gradual adoption is fine. It's so much better than seeing StackOverflow answers from like 2013, and knowing not a goddamn one of them works anymore. It's massively better than having to write separate code for IE and Netscape.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait until you find out that people made and still make sites that load on both IE and Netscape.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There ought to be some kind of 2016 css subset that everyone sticks to and then we can reconsider maybe updating it to include any newer stuff that's absolutely essential once every ten years.

[–] Xylight 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that mentality is one reason websites spam JavaScript today, because native features of the markup language were being added too slow

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Expecting the runtime/browser to ship a native implementation of virtually everything you might want to do in a turing-complete language, is also really not sustainable, though.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Progressive enhancement is a cool thing

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's like wanting to use a just standardized media format.

Windows native support for MKV (2002) and HEVC (2013): 2019

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