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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 137 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You can’t count chrome and edge as two different browsers…

[–] Xylight 57 points 2 months ago

MDN does, not my decision

[–] mamg22@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They keep them grouped together though. If you look closely, they're in the same bubble while firefox is in another one. Probably shows both for the convenience of most devs.

(also Microsoft being Microsoft might shoehorn in some feature no other normal browser would just because)

[–] LytiaNP@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think they're in the same bubble because they both support the feature

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[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's actually Google doing that these days, but they do it on webkit directly and so everything but Firefox gets their experiments too.

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[–] vogi@piefed.social 9 points 2 months ago

they are grouped and as they are different browsers that theoretically could have different blink versions I feel like it makes sense.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

You know what still works? HTML tables.

Suck it, all of the 2000s webdev.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 31 points 2 months ago

What's worse than div soup? Table ware.

[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even apple phones added flexbox support in like 2022.
Flexbox spam is the new tables.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

2022? That's in the future

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 3 points 2 months ago

God damn it I’m getting old. I had to seriously reconsider and reparse 2022 like nine times.

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[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 52 points 2 months ago (5 children)

...Did you add an unescaped RTL toggle character on your user name?

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

For the record, I noticed because I use Friendica:

Header of the post in Friendica, which thanks to the RTL toggle character, reads literally: "XylightromuH remmargorP aív"

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 25 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Jeroba only flips the instance domain, that is way more wild

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] plateee@piefed.social 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's it like being famous? 🤩

[–] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Funnily enough, it is correctly escaped in the client he developed, Photon

[–] Xylight 7 points 2 months ago

it actually isnt intentional that it works fine, it's some miracle of how i split the instance name and the username in markup. i was a little disappointed that nothing funny happened when i added that initially

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 5 points 2 months ago

Call me unsurprised if @Xylight added it as a way to test for rendering errors across Fediverse clients

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

Same with voyager

[–] Xylight 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i do remember doing that a long time ago

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

Doing QA testing for free? You and lil bobby tables would get along great

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 15 points 2 months ago

By the way, if you want to replicate this effect for fun and profit, the control character you're searching for is U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE (or RLO for short)

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I strongly think Lemmy clients should have a toggle to show usernames instead of display names. Some of the Unicode is super obnoxious.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Some Lemmy clients like summit do (which I keep on, because display names are often cancer)

[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And now you're about to nerd-snipe me into checking if control characters are valid for user names in ActivityPub

[–] Xylight 4 points 2 months ago

There's probably some restrictions because I tried making an instance that had a user with a completely empty username and it didn't federate.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Gradual adoption is fine. It's so much better than seeing StackOverflow answers from like 2013, and knowing not a goddamn one of them works anymore. It's massively better than having to write separate code for IE and Netscape.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait until you find out that people made and still make sites that load on both IE and Netscape.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There ought to be some kind of 2016 css subset that everyone sticks to and then we can reconsider maybe updating it to include any newer stuff that's absolutely essential once every ten years.

[–] Xylight 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that mentality is one reason websites spam JavaScript today, because native features of the markup language were being added too slow

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Expecting the runtime/browser to ship a native implementation of virtually everything you might want to do in a turing-complete language, is also really not sustainable, though.

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[–] zitrone@europe.pub 15 points 2 months ago

I don't believe, you should expect all browsers to implement all new web features in under a year. It takes time, like new C++ or C standarts. An like with all other standarts, the more parties are involved the more time it takes to adopt it.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Haha, one year? How quaint. (Cries into ISO C++ standards)

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Progressive enhancement is a cool thing

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's like wanting to use a just standardized media format.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just don't create such a mess that you need cutting-edge features.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cutting-edge JS is for boring stuff anyway. We've gone from formalizing the best bits of jQuery to 'click thing to make box appear.' So you're only avoiding tutorial-ass boilerplate, and quite frankly, boo hoo.

Meanwhile CSS is still in the "Jesus Christ why wasn't it like this to begin with" phase of feature adoption.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Thank god for tailwind templates wouldn't get anywhere without them

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