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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Yes. Yes, racists are retarded. There is no logical reason to harbour discrimination towards any ethnic group or rage of Humans. Therefore, those who do aren't logical or rational individuals.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why should I be bigoted over skin color when I can be bigoted over culture and religion. After all I have met good folks of many ethnic and racial groups, I have yet to meet a Utah Mormon whomst I didn't want to feed to the Joshua Trees.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can be bigoted over culture and religion

I have yet to meet a Utah Mormon whomst I didn’t want to feed to the Joshua Trees.

I'm always thrown back to the Southpark guys when I think about lay Mormons. The whole "All About Mormons" episode (nevermind the Book of Mormon stage play) absolutely eviscerates the philosophy. But their attitude to actual religious practitioners is inevitably that they're just nice, simple-minded people. And going after any individual Mormon for their faith is a bit like going up to Santa Claus exhibit at the mall and screaming "Fake! Fake! It's all bullshit consumerism! Your parents are buying the presents!"

There's definitely shit people who are Mormon (Mitt Romney being the ur-example). But then there's shit people in every religious and philosophical niche. My cousin is married to a practicing Mormon and he's an absolute marshmallow sweetheart. All smiles, great with kids, quick to help anyway he can. Soft spoken, non-judgemental, a shameless teatoddler who is always happy to be the designated driver. You can raz him for being a bit bland and he'll laugh at your jokes, then maybe tease you about having had one too many coffees.

It's the people who are easy to bully and scare and intimidate that can make for a very dangerous "Silent Majority", because they'll just kinda go along to get along. But they're also fundamental to a peaceful, productive, and happy society when benevolent and visionary leaders are at the helm. If your society is all contrarian, belligerent, hard-drinking, fist-clenching, radical revolutionary/reactionary agitprop breathing soldiers of fortune, what you get is just endless fighting and misery and slaughter.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ya do realize I have more reason to hate Utah Mormons than just they're different right? I specifically focus on the Utahn culture and religious practices of Mormons because I see them as an active threat to basically every western state. If I could get away with just purging BYU, LDS HQ, and the Utahn government I'd be more than happy to settle for that, I just severely doubt that would end my complaints.

If it makes it any more understandable I am far less forgiving towards Evangelical mega churches, which all I can think is that there are only viable targets for such groups.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of the individuals aren't in there entirely of their own will though. Particularly with BYU, the institution itself is a cancer, but the individual students are really not at fault (at least certainly not all of them). The university portrays itself very differently than it actually is, and you effectively cannot leave the mormon church while you attend (unless you want to get kicked out and have all your time there completely wasted).

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Which is why I would simply loot and distribute whatever is usable IE lab equipment, research papers, et cetera and then burn down the facility with at least some of the faculty within. My end goal would be to destroy the social control mechanism that the Mormon church uses, if there is no Mormon universities then they have to send them to at minimum a non Mormon one. My point is to do enough infrastructural damage that the Mormon church either dies, loses control, or becomes more moderate.

Mind you I'm mostly focused on the fancy showy shit, pretty hard to be a bloodthirsty jackass when talking about seizing assets and outlawing church owned companies, portfolios, and putting a cap on tithes. Most of the damage that one could do is to break them outside of Utah, but you also need to strike the Utah shit as well to prevent them from going insular bunker mode again and having to do the same thing yet again in 100 years.

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[–] calebwill@lemmy.zip -3 points 15 hours ago

Racism sucks, but so does using the ableist r-slur.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

OP should watch Django

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (22 children)

There are a few forms or levels of racism. There are people who really believe the narrative, some who question some of it, and others who are aware it's bullshit but accept it because it benefits them or going against the narrative could be harmful for themselves. In short humans will craft whatever story they need to justify behavior they want without any concerns for logical consistency. You can see this behavior in racism now and of course many other aspects of society and human behavior. Humans are storytellers, more so than logical beings.

Funny enough Benjamin Franklin has a short story on this. He as a vegetarian was lamenting his compatriots catching, killing, and cooking fish, listing all the reasons it's immoral until he begins to smell the delicious fish and then starts writing about how maybe it's not so bad, is fine, is even his god given right to eat the fish. The moral being humans can and will justify whatever they want to do. Also I'm aware of his own connection to slavery and inhumane practices.

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[–] czer0_@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago
[–] VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm not a historian but I believe the sad truth is that they saw them like animals; capable of being trained to do jobs but not smart enough to understand more complex issues or choose the tasks themselves

Like a dog. You can train your dog to guard your house or hunt birds but you probably don't trust your dog to vote

It's fucked up

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've seen how people vote. I'd take the chances with the dogs.

One Sunday morning I walked out into my ex's open garage and sitting in there was a stray dog. Her neck fur had a mark as though someone recently pulled off her collar and dumped her on the back road. I calmly approached the dog and turns out she was the sweetest doggo and instantly got along with my ex's other 2 dogs. She rarely barked and would always just walk up to some, sit and wait to get petted. Even the ex's dad who doesn't like dogs eventually warmed up to her because of how sweet she was.

Weeks later we took her to an event downtown on an unseasonably hot fall afternoon beer fest. That dog wanted nothing more than to just get pet by as many people as possible. Sitting outside a brewery was a worker sitting in a chair almost drenched in sweat looking like he hated life. She walked up to him, sat down and looked at him, and he instantly smiled.

Working one of the beer tents was an interim director of HR who was one of the most miserable shit-birds I ever had the displeasure to work with. Did nothing but complain about everything and everyone, blindly blamed everyone for things she simply didn't understand, I even nearly got written up because this lady didn't take the time to read my explanation about an error report when new employees are loaded into a benefits system. Even the dog wanted nothing to do with that miserable fuck.

I'll trust the dogs to be a better judge of character than half the mouthbreathers who vote at the polls.

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[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 days ago

they are though.

anyone who grew up in the american suburbs grew up with parents who couldn't cook a proper meal despite the existence of cookbooks and were like 'how about kraft dinner.'

you think you eat kraft macaroni and cheese at a hood bbq?

i'd rather have had a black woman cooking for me lol. are you fucking serious?

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Always have been.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 days ago

Bigotry isn't a reasonable position, so it's pretty expected to find contradictions and brain dead takes from bigots

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"You don't understand; my house ****** is one of the good ones."

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[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

What a silly question, of course they are

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