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If only they had added an Atlantic author to their group chat like Pete hegseth it would have been all kosher.

True about anonymity, I didn't necessarily mean never know who you're working with, if it's your true homies and family there's probably less risk but yeah like with Fred Hampton, there are a lot of ways the feds can pressure people close to you. If someone is told they would get sentenced to 30 years in prison if they don't help the investigation it's a tough bargain to go against them.

It really does suck I read books from guerilla fighters like Che Guevara talking about the disadvantage in regards to having to work in the shadows, weaponry, organization and funding. It's wild how much more power the state security forces have gained. But the revolutionaries fighting an evil state will gain the sympathies of the people which is an advantage, as well as the sheer number of potential fighters, always much greater than the state's numbers if they can be organized sufficiently.

I'm not fully sure I understand what you mean, are you saying that since the state will crack down so hard on them regardless of what they do, these groups shouldn't waste time with these sorts of "solidarity protest" actions and just actually start doing genuinely revolutionary action, since the punishment is the same either way?

Call phones have really lowered the general ability of anybody to commit to anything.

"Are we still on? I wasn't sure because I hadn't heard from you"

SHUT UP SHUT UP JUST COME TO THE THING WE FUCKING PLANNED

Nearly every time I've attempted to push irl meetings at least one person has claimed it is ableist (even with masks) or classist (harder for some to travel). I still try though...

Screenshots are still a thing. The tradeoffs are real for secure messaging. At a certain point, someone has to see that packet A got sent from IP x.x.x.x to IP y.y.y.y. beyond that, metadata is hard to keep safe. Who messaged who when. The ways to make it more obscure, more encrypted, but at the end of the day you still have vectors that information can escape through. The biggest one is that a person you send message to takes a screenshot. Even if you secure everything so so much, you can't make it so someone can read it but can't record it. Take a picture of it, etc.

Check out briar, it does a pretty good job for a messenger, but tradeoffs are tradeoffs (e.g. recipient must be online to deliver messages). Also simplex ive heard good things about.

Yeah true, it is possible, I shouldn't say never use digital comms, I mainly meant if you want to be sure that the message won't be intercepted or read back to you in court. Even if you have your own encrypted system, a person could be compromised and share the messages with authorities, or there could be some kind of other monitoring like a camera watching your screen. I just have trouble trusting that there isn't some kind of backdoor that could expose you that we don't know about yet. I doubt these people were thinking it was going to be that serious of an event though, it sounds like it wasn't exactly that planned out.

You can make single use shared cyphers

These are called one time pads for anyone who isn't familiar. It is actually an incredibly simple technique which can be done with pencil on paper if needed.

Do you really think there is any "trick" to evade this prosecutorial attitude? The reblious intentions of the victims can be clearly demonstrated by the actions at the protest. Everything else is just decoration.

Realistically, I find it unlikely that most any group of 5 or 10 or more people would be able to exercise perfect discipline and discretion required for this to work. I also dont know what kind of information would be transmitted this way? Its not like the rosenburgs passing scientific information. Its easier to just have an IRL meeting.

Anybody involved in this stuff has to be aware that there is a 1 in 3000 chance that they will be executed or life made hell indefinitely. Quit smoking/vaping now, it'll make incarceration easier.