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It's very difficult to progress as a nation when you have millions of people who refuse to enter the 21st century.

While driving one day in Toronto, I accidentally tuned the radio to a US based "Christian" radio station. It was absolutely horrifying. There was nothing about Jesus AT ALL and a lot of "armour of god" and "defend yourself against your enemies" and "build the empire of God's faithful".

Batshit crazy terrorist shit.

Abrahamic religions will keep women under their boot as long as they exist.

Remember, the Southern Baptists split from the mainstream Baptist Church because they supported enslavement.

I’m so sick of religious people.

Remember, folks, the reason the SBC split from mainline baptists was because of slavery.

The northern Baptist’s were opposed to slavery and southern baptists saw slave owners as “missionaries”. That is, people whose job is to “proselytize” the Baptist leadership at the time was dominated by the north and rejected slave owners as missionaries, and so the asshole southerners split off. Cuz they didn’t want to give up their slaves.

So fuck the SBC in particular.

I vote to ban churches and all religious buildings.

Hell, ban religions. The world would be such a better place without the stoneage fairytales

let's not forget that the sole reason that the Southern Baptist Convention exists is because they wanted to keep black folks out of their churches. When the big Baptist association was taking a stand on civil rights, the scum bags that would become the Southern Baptists took their ball and left.

Everyone who's been to a church knows how vitally important the speaker's pennis is to the sermon.

Recently came across articles and videos of women who are actively fighting to lose their right to vote (they only want their husbands to), so yeah, this tracks.

I'm surprised Southern Baptists allowed women pastors in the first place.

Welcome to Giliad. Blessed be the fruit, motherfuckers.

Women constitute 50% of the population, yet they keep voting for conservative assholes that restrict their freedoms. Honestly as a man it just doesn't make sense

My mom was telling me about how there are hardly any people left at church.

Apparently they had a split between the progressive and conservative factions of the church, and the progressives all departed.

The progressives tended to be the young families with children. The conservatives tended to be the people who will be dead soon. Like the church.

The same men telling women in the SBC to get out of the pulpit are the same men telling the victims of sexual offenses in SBC churches to shut up and get over it.

While women may have held a quieter role in supporting the pedo/rapey shit that goes down in the SBC and maybe still do, the VAST list of SCB sexual offenders and their protectors is made of men, the internal hierarchy of power is rigid and unyielding, and for as much concerned pearl-clutching as SBC leaders engage in every time it hits the news, which it does frequently, they still haven't really done anything to slow it down. A couple of these articles are older, but nothing substantial has changed:

20 years, 700 victims: Southern Baptist sexual abuse spreads as leaders resist reforms -- Houston Chronicle

How an Alleged Predator Remade the Southern Baptist Convention -- Texas Monthly

New Lawsuit: Paige Patterson, former Southern Baptist leader, humiliated woman who reported rape -- Houston Chronicle

Read these at your own risk: they are thoroughly sickening. But there is a pattern: for every individual who is harmed, there appears to be a machine ready to shut them down, one that was operative as far back as the 1970s.

So knowing what I know about what goes down in the SBC and has for decades, when I see a headline like the above, "Southern Baptists vote to advance a formal ban on churches with women pastors," I don't see it as having anything primarily to do with doctrine, especially since if the doctrine were that important there would be any number of things they'd already be doing differently.

Rather, I see a group of predators seeking to ensure that their hunting grounds remain fresh, open, and uncluttered with victims they have already used and/or anyone who would speak for them or act on their behalf.

I'm not a Christian and I have no dog in this hunt, but if there was ever a religious organization that desperately needs to be stopped on its institutional slide back to the 1950s (or 1750s), the SBC would absolutely be it.

This doesnt go far enough. They need to ban women and men!

Only spiritual entities that have ascended to a higher plane and propagate through dementional shifting.

Just like in the bible.

Trad-wives speed running to Gilead

What do you expect from people who follow a 2,000+ year old book written by people we’d consider insane if we tried to speak with them today. It offers zero proof of its god and no one to this day has been able to bring any evidence. The bible’s been rewritten over a dozen times under the influence of kings with their own agendas. Yet somehow this work of fiction (by all applicable standards it should be) is what these people form their lives around. They magically always find a way to interpret its passages to support their own biases. Regardless of the amazing ideas philosophy and science have brought to humanity, they keep retreating to the magical thinking of the past. Of course they hate progress like women having power in their little club.

oppressive banjo noises

Blessed be the fruit.

Moderately surprised that the branch of Christianity devoted to preserving slavery didn’t already ban women from being pastors.

"Boys' club votes to confirm that girls are yucky and dumb" is all I see.

I grew up Southern Baptist, with a lean toward the even more fundamentalist side of things. I'm now Episcopalian. I remember Pastor Lynne, the first woman priest I ever had. Completely changed my perspective on this subject. It's funny, but the clergy and theologians who have been the most influential to me in recent years have largely been women: Kate Sonderegger, Catherine Pickstock, Kathy Grieb (two of those names were professors of mine in seminary). And my diocese (Hawai'i) just elected the first woman to be our bishop in our history! Saint Mary Magdalene was the first person to proclaim the resurrection of Jesus, in effect making her the first Christian evangelist. Sad that there are still so many parts of the Christian world that fail to heed what Jesus was doing.

Allowing bronze age discriminating principles that reflect clearly bad morals are a sin not a virtue. These principles are also illegal in most civilized countries. Allowing special pleading for religions on issues we know are morally wrong, is a crime against humanity.

Maybe they should ban Southern Baptists?

What's the point of having two catholic churches? This is removing the SB's only marketing niche.

Southern Baptists:

• full of pedophiles
• has women pastors

Catholic Church

• full of pedophiles
• no women priests

Sure, alienate half your members, good plan.

"Say, Clem, any idea why donations are down?"