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[–] Naich@piefed.world 82 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It'll mean something when they actually do something about it. Everyone grumbles about shit.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Honestly grumbling about Putin himself is a change in Russia. They've traditionally applied good tsar, bad boyars to him.

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The modern form of this is, "SHOIGUUUU! GERASIMOV!!!!"

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[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They aren't upset that he started a war, just that he hasn't been very good at it.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I’ve been hearing about how Russia is about to collapse economically, lose the war, and watch Putin die from cancer for… years now. It’s just clickbait at this point.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most people want instant gratification and the media knows it. The fact is that most institutional collapse don't happen overnight, but a slow burn one. Russia is indeed losing economically from the war, but it will be like with USSR when the war in Afghanistan slowly drained Soviet coffers. Although in my opinion, the consequences could worse than the aftermath of USSR's collapse. China will vassalise Russia, which is contrary to the aim of Putin in making Russia an independent major power.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

While you’re right that these things happen over time, there are often sudden watershed moments where the change becomes much more obvious than before, and those can precipitate more sudden actions to follow. Not everything is a slow forever burn with slovenly people like me yawning on the sidelines crying “borrring!”

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[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Start illegal war with neighbouring country and killing innocent civilians: I sleep.

Economy down the drain: real shit.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 56 points 1 month ago

That's how most of the wars are lost. Most people will justify the worst crimes their countries do as long as they feel they are personally benefiting from it.

[–] mitram@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 month ago

In the end, what most people seem to care about is their own material conditions

[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

I love how this applies to every country that invaded.

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[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Too bad that "mood" really doesn't seem to be relevant in totalitarian dictatorships.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If the mood is bad enough, it can result in death of the dictator.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, unfortunately that upheaval rarely leads to actual positive change, just some other dictatorship taking its place.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

True, but sometimes it works out OK, as it did in Romania.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nicolae Causescu would disagree if he could.

[–] placebo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He's rather an outlier in modern history as well as the circumstances of his fall. Modern dictators know how to manage this risk. Putin, being a former KGB agent, knows that better than anyone.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah come on, the first 1550 days of a 3 days special military operation are always the hardest!!!11

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What's funny is that Russian trolls are gradually having a harder time trying to spin the increasingly losing war in Ukraine. They are running out of creative heads to write scripts to read from!

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If there’s a country Thats more servile to their criminal president than America it’s gotta be Russia. This is like the articles that talk about trumps base turning on him. No they’re not

[–] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, if it drops from 80 to 75% approval it is "turning on him". Also, meaningless.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

The vast majority of MAGAs would support Trump all the way to nuclear war, not because they actually support a nuclear exchange but because they're so brainwashed that they haven't thought about it.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

This is like the articles that talk about trumps base turning on him. No they’re not

We get the "Putin about to be toppled from within" article every couple of months going back 20 years. It's just a thing Western Media likes to print.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're not unhappy that he went to war with Ukraine, they're unhappy with the results they're getting.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No, they are also unhappy that he went to war. But, the attitude is that they can't control it so they don't think about it. Now, that they can't use their phones and there are burning buildings in Moscow it is harder to ignore it.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is there a polymarket bet on who kicks the bucket first, Trump or Putin? Hard to say

[–] optimisticturtle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Those hamberders and old age will catch up to Trump any second now. He's already had a mini-stroke on national TV. Putin is 7 years younger and is health conscious to the point it was memed on, But unlike Trump, Putin seems to know he's in over his head and is looking to contain fallout from this invasion. Dr. William Spaniel thinks 'Putin is done' talk is overblown though acknowledges things don't look great at all for Putin in Ukraine or domestically.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Such a ridiculous situation that 2 old bitter people are responsible for so much trouble in the world.

[–] placebo@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Putin, Trump, Xi, Modi, Netanyahu, and until recently Khamenei - they're all 70+, they don't understand modern world. And yet they rule some of the biggest and/or influential countries.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

putin has enoug plastic surgery and preservatives, like the permafrost. so trump is the likely one to go.

trumps children seem to be circling him like a vulture.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just watch the Russian victory day military parade from earlier this month to see how “great” things are going for Putin and Russia.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have been reading this article for twenty years

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[–] chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

oh the russians are in a MOOD. you tell him, girl!

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

From reading ISW, my impression is that Putin is a moderate in Russian politics.

Yes, many hate the war and his dictatorship. But there are also some in Russia (including potential successors) that are more militant than Putin, and think he held back too much, that he’s not nationalist enough.

He keeps these people in line.

…And it makes me afraid of who might take his place.

[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Whoever takes his place will not have such a strong grip on everyone, so there will be a massive internal fight for power.

This is what all those Freedom of Russia legions are preparing for.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The only fucking thing that is disturbingly functional is the rat bastard's propaganda machine.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Weren't there rumours of a general and a possible coup a couple of weeks ago.

I assume he fell out a ground floor window and died from the fall?

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

the ones who arnt defenestrated that is.

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