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As speculation mounts that Kim Jong-un and Trump could meet this month, analysts say Pyongyang will continue to see nuclear weapons as a matter of survival

North Korea’s launch last week of a missile from a naval destroyer elicited an uncharacteristically prosaic analysis from the country’s leader, Kim Jong-un. The launch was proof, he said, that arming ships with nuclear weapons was “making satisfactory progress”.

But the test, and Kim’s mildly upbeat appraisal, were designed to reverberate well beyond the deck of the 5,000-tonne destroyer-class vessel the Choe Hyon – the biggest warship in the North Korean fleet.

His pointed reference to nuclear weapons was made as the US and Israel continued their air bombardment of Iran – a regime Donald Trump had warned, without offering evidence, was only weeks away from having a nuclear weapon.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago (31 children)

That's because nukes ARE the only path to security lmao. As soon as the first one was tested, and then fuck me used against civilians everyone watching jnmed understood this.

It sucks, and I would much prefer a world without nuclear weapons, but this is reality unfortunately. If you have nukes, you have leverage without ever having to use them

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (6 children)

we were working toward a way for a world without nukes. building an economy so interconnected that going to war with another country destroys your economy too. but that shit is fragile. i didn't think it was this fragile tho.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 15 points 2 months ago

It just needs someone with power and without any fucking knowledge of economics but thinking the opposite.

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[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is the plot of metal gear

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's the overwhelming message of the 20th and 21st centuries. If you don't have nukes then the US or Russia is gonna mess with you. Get nukes.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

All but impossible, the major players keep an eye on all the things necessary for nuclear weapons.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Actually, Canada got in on the ground floor and we have everything we'd need. They say we're about two months out at any given time.

Then again, we're pretty used to the luxuries of not being an isolated pariah state.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Am German. We can definitely be trusted with nukes.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

I think the lesson here is no one can be trusted with nukes, which is why I want them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Anyone who didn't learn that lesson from Ukraine is a fucking idiot

They had nukes, and gave them away after assurances if Russia invaded they'd be defended.

Instead we left them out to dry and started another war instead

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Checks and balances.

I know that it's an unpopular opinion, but I firmly believe that we were at least marginally safer when the USSR was still a superpower acting as a check on American fuckery.

Once the USSR fell, US went masks off on the international stage because they had no reason to pretend to be the good guys anymore.

They convinced all their allies to disarm themselves, and then went full "nice country here...shame if something happened to it" the moment they were the only big dog left.

The world can't re-arm itself fast enough as far as I'm concerned.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Better to have it and not need it. You can only have respect when your facing someone at an equal level of power and respect. Clearly even if some administration does have love for your people the next administration might not.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And unfortunately, North Korea is very correct in this assessment :(

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

shit, i’m in canada and we are having a new conversation about acquiring nukes. USA is making the world a very dangerous place, and it’s all because grossly rich turds like trump want more.

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[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago

We live in times, when if you don't have a weapon of mass destruction, you cannot be safe. This is like having a gun in neighborhood.

[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Sadly, that's a lesson I've already learned from war in Ukraine. Before it I had "hope"s and "might"s about civilization. Now I have a substantial amount less

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[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (14 children)

And not just North Korea's.

Just like Putin is the best NATO marketer, Trump is the best nuclear weapon marketer.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Since Putin attacked Ukraine half a dozen European countries are considering their own nuclear arsenal separate from US nuclear sharing. Sweden, Germany, Ukraine, Italy, Poland, Netherlands, Denmark.

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Not just north Korea, the whole world can see what happened to Ukrain after they gave up their nukes in exchange for a protection deal, mutually assured destruction is the only way to keep your country safe

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"North Korea's view"

Ha, yeah, it's a NK thing. It's everybody's view.

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[–] HaveAnotherTacoPDX@lemmy.today 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Shit, Trump's illegal Iran war convinces me pretty strongly that a nuclear weapons program is the only way to keep my fucking apartment secure from the despotic motherfucker. Kick in my door and millions go boom, bitch!

…that sounds ridiculous, and it is! But that's the kind of world this sadistic, brain-rotted buffoon is trying to create. And for some reason Republicans seem to think that's just great! Less than two dozen of them could end this nightmare if they cared. But they don't. How many more are going to die for these bastards?

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (22 children)

If they have a brain they will never relinquish their nukes. Not just because of the US either.

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[–] DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

reinforce North Korea's view

I think you mean conclusively prove North Korea's view to be correct

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

The situation Ukraine and Iran reinforced that position too. Ukraine believed that the US would have its back if it gave up its nukes

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah, they've already figured that out.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean its not a wrong view its either that or be a faithful servant of the west above your own citizens.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Instead of try to renovate or upkeep nuclear sites Ukraine gave them to Russia for assurances of protection by the Russia, the U.K, and U.S. Then Russia attacked them twice since then. It isn't a "west" thing.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

just North Korea? How about the rest of the free world becoming a little more cozy to owning a nuke? What is stopping the American barbarians from just coming over and taking what they want? especially with their empire crumbling? See what the zionazis did to gaza? That is potentially ALL OF US.

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