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It used to be quite frequent, back before cellphones were common.
As for me, my new job is the first dayshift job I've had in 30 years. For me the only real effect of DST was that I would gain or lose and hour of pay. Either way, I always had to stick around till the next shift arrived. It'll be nice to run on sunlight rather than moonlight, even if I am taking a 50% paycut to make it happen.
Fascinating to hear from someone who works Saturday night / Sunday morning during the time change. I always thought that would be an interesting moment to experience.
Please remind me because my brain short circuits when I try to remember if we lose an hour or gain an hour: do you get an extra hour of pay in March? Or is the extra hour of pay in November?
Whichever month you lose an hour of pay during the time change, probably seems pretty depressing, and all you can do is look forward to 6 months later when you can work the same shift to recoup that hour of pay! ๐
When the clock goes back an hour, your shift is an hour longer. I can never remember which month was which. I was usually more concerned with keeping track of the minute than the hour.
Interestingly, I noticed that cellphones would repeat or skip the 01:00 hour, though that might be timezone dependent.
Oh that's great, then next weekend you will get an extra hour of pay ๐
Ignore the clock, it's the timer thats important. That's all the time clock is. a timer.
If you work 7 hours, you get paid for 7 hours. If you work 9 hours, you get paid 9 hours.
So shift is from 22:00 to 06:00. but the clock is going to skip 01:00 and go straight to 02:00. Numberline it.
NORMAL:
22 - 23 - 00 - 01 - 02 - 03 - 04 - 05 - 06
0H - 1H - 2H - 3H - 4H - 5H - 6H - 7H - 8H
SPRINGING FORWARD (01:00 TO 02:00 IS SKIPPED):
22 - 23 - 00 - 02 - 03 - 04 - 05 - 06
0H - 1H - 2H - 3H - 4H - 5H - 6H - 7H
OR FALLING BACK (01:00 TO 02:00 IS REPEATED):
22 - 23 - 00 - 01 - 01 - 02 - 03 - 04 - 05 - 06
0H - 1H - 2H - 3H - 4H - 5H - 6H - 7H - 8H - 9H
Ah thank you for explaining. That makes sense!
Happens less often now that my phone (and therefore my alarm clock) switches automatically, but it's happened to me a few times in each direction. Showed up to work an hour late and didn't realize it until I walked in the door. Showing up an hour early is definitely preferable but still annoying. I'd just as soon be done with the whole thing. I don't know if it ever really helped but I certainly don't think it serves any purpose now.
I'd just as soon be done with the whole thing. I don't know if it ever really helped but I certainly don't think it serves any purpose now.
Pretty much everyone agrees that we all hate it and it needs to be stopped. It started for crop harvesting purposes in the olden days before light bulbs were invented, am I remembering that correctly?
For decades people have been begging for this to stop. But government has been so damn slow & inefficient & useless about it.
Last November or December, you know those months when the hours of daylight are agonizingly short, like only 9 or 10 hours of daylight, I got in a conversation with a couple of colleagues in the break room about this and we researched the current sunset / sunrise times,
we did some quick math and realized that even if the govt abolished the clock change, the best we could do is have the sun rise at 7am and set at 5pm. Which would still be super depressing because we're all stuck at work during those hours. We want to at least see the sunset when we leave work in the evening, just to feel alive & human for a brief moment, but in winter it's so depressing to leave work and it's pitch black like midnight outside even though it's only 6:30pm ๐คฃ Yes my work day ends at 6:30pm.
Bottom line is those winter months are dark & depressing as hell and no artificial clock adjustments can ever remedy that.
But yeah the government needs to get off its ass and abolish this useless time-change practice.
I've read a few explanations but I feel like I'm missing a core concept. I cannot understand what reasonable person would, instead of moving things around on a schedule according to the season, propose to move all the clocks in the world back one hour, then forward one hour a few months later, forever as a serious solution. It just seems too absurd a solution to such a mundane problem to be a real thing. And yet it is ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Dunno if you'd count this but I play dungeons and dragons with a few people in different countries online, and while we've never been late due to our own daylight savings, I've had our british player be late due to Britain starting theirs late. We set the schedule by the US time, so he gets to manually adjust for a different region's DST.
Back when I was in the field, I had clients show up late 3 times because of it. But I didn't care, I got paid to wait
Yes, twice that I remember.
First was somebody turning up late on the Monday for work. Not sure how they got through the whole of Sunday without noticing, but this would have been around 2001, so before smartphones.
Second was again at work on the Monday. There was an Apple bug which broke the alarm or caused it not to change. I think that was due to the clocks changing but it's possible it was just a general Apple screw up.