Full Self Fraud
this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2026
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That's pretty old news
Tesla: if you persuade at least 10 million idiots to subscribe for fsd (and reach a lot of other impossible targets) we will give you one trillion dollars
The Nazi: hold my ketamine
You don't own a tesla.
You can't get a refund if you've been paying a subscription for a missing product.
If they want a subscription based car. Then at the very least I want to "rent" a car under that subscription, and not just one car. Whatever car I choose and for how ever long I want.
Oh that will never happen? Cool I'll keep my 20+ year old car with no data gathering.
That's called car sharing, and exists in a lot of places.
Or leasing
But... I thought Tesla didn't have full self driving.
It's what they call their lane-assist/cruise control.
They were supposed to stop using the term but the article might not be caught up.
I've used and and it seems like full self driving. Maybe that's why it keeps killing people.
Destination to destination? Stop signs, residential corners, merges, and blind mountain corners? In fog and road spray?
I bought my model 3 with fsd in 2019, back when the only thing Elon talked about publicly was the push to increase ev adoption. Always hated the guy, but loved the car. Again this was before he came out as a full blown Nazi.
Not defending him, I think he's a moron who hired really smart engineers to build a great car. I think his drug addiction and Nazism and stupid decisions have ruined the company, and fuck it I don't even care about it anymore. Fuck Nazi Elon.
That out of the way, yes. Destination to destination, day or night, rain or shine, stop signs, lights, roundabouts, u turns, merges, overtaking, bridges, tunnels, pedestrians jaywalking, handles it all.
It's not perfect, while it slows down in school zones, it doesn't actually read the posted speed sign and goes faster than it should, it does weird decisions and jerky moves at very low speed in parking lots, of the address you entered is not a coordinate of the parking lot, it will pull over and disengage on the road in front of the building regardless of whether that's allowed there. It does still make some mistakes occasionally, so I never trust it to actually not pay attention, but it drives me everywhere.
I guess I'm out of date. Not sure if the meme outlasted the delays or if it just got buried in the politics. I continue to despise the lack of non-visual sensors to actually give it an advantage over human vision.
Evil company does evil shit. Then again roads will be safer if fewer people have access to it and more annoyed drivers could potentially be a good advertisement for public transport. It‘s not all bad.
I wanted a Tesla, until about seven or eight years ago when they switched off features after some dude bought his Tesla used, because only the original owner had paid for the features.
I knew this is what it would turn into. Fuck Tesla, and fuck Musk.
The only cases I've heard that fit this, is some of the old model S where "free supercharging" got removed from vehicles that were resold through Tesla.
Do you have a link to cases where functionality actually got removed from vehicles sold privately directly? I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, I just haven't heard of any.
Here ya go: https://www.jalopnik.com/tesla-remotely-removes-autopilot-features-from-customer-1841472617/
Edit: Ah, sold privately, as in directly between individuals? I'm not sure about that, but they totally could. They can track the location of the car; if it starts getting parked at a different house regularly, for example, it'd be easy to tell it'd been sold.
Yeah they probably could, like all manufactures can these days, but I haven't heard of it actually happening outside of them going back in to Tesla to be resold. Directly from person to person they retain features and even free supercharge access.
LOL who are these idiots buying their crappy cars? You only have yourselves to blame. Elon is just playing you like a fiddle.
100 million Americans are screaming Elon/Tesla is a business to avoid at all costs. 100 million Americans are screaming that EVs are a vehicle type to avoid at all costs. 100 million Americans do not scream, do not post, and do not have any higher opinion about the cars beyond being cool, cheap to fuel, or quiet.
I have Autopilot on mine (2020). I've asked them at the shop to remove it and reinstall basic cruise control and they refused, and I'm jealous. Autopilot suuuucks. I went on a 1200 mile road trip through North Texas. The whole time the car thought the speed limit was 55 when it was actually 75, and it refused to go any faster, so I had to drive for hours with no cruise control. It sucked.
There is a setting in the menu where you can deactivate autopilot/FSD yourself and instead have a normal cruise control function.
Yeah can use standard ACC but it still won't go over the speed limit. There's no "normal" cruise control.
Maybe we are running different software versions then because on my Model 3 I have it set to cruise control instead of FSD and it definitely lets me go above the speed limit. I have it set to default to speed limit when activated but with the right thumb wheel I can adjust set speed up or down. I’ve included a screenshot of my settings in case it’s helpful to anyone.
ASS Sounds about right
That is definitely the idea of the Nazi with the teenager mind
The people who went to business school and make sure everything is priced as high as possible.
Fuck Tesla and any/every other automaker for switching to subscription-based anything for features. As if the fuckstick hasn't already raped people on price enough as it is. The board is completely lost and a bunch of idiots to keep fumbling over Lord Elon's decisions.
Tesla is already a failing company. This will only accelerate their decline.
They rolled this update out mid-journey, and I had to scramble to swap seats with the manequin driver. Not cool, Elon.
Not. Cool.
I think this could be legally interesting (I'm no expert), because with the different kind of contract the lessor's duties change. Especially regarding bugs or mistakes of the vehicle.
Well that should cut down on the deaths and the lawsuits from those deaths at least.