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submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the "John Oliver rule."

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[-] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml 533 points 1 year ago

Bullshit. Nobody, or at least very few people, expected Reddit to revert the changes. A protest can be successful even if it doesn't lead to immediate change. I was here on Lemmy long before the API nonsense happened over at Reddit, and the difference over here is night and day. Lemmy has been around for awhile, but until these last few months it couldn't hold a candle to Reddit in terms of content or activity. Maybe it still can't, but now it has enough users to be viable. Reddit might go on like nothing happened, but in the background a competitor has been born.

[-] ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 192 points 1 year ago

I migrated from Reddit. Most of the communities I followed would be hours or days between posts (if they were not private). Everything left was just not pleasant.

I am still fumbling around here but for the most part it is has better discussions and people seem less rude.

I do not regret leaving at this time. I am sure my infinitesimal presence or lack there of does not bother Reddit, but it made me feel better.

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 year ago

Less rude? Fuck you.

/s ❤️

[-] lando55@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago
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[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, when I have looked at reddit recently I have observed that mostly the conversation is terrible. There is definitely more content than on Lemmy, but I also like talking to people who speak in entire sentences.

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[-] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I think that's a good thing. Less is more, maybe? Dose it really have to be at the scale of reddit? I hope not. Tbh I hope Lemmy becomes bigger for sure but it doesn't need to become the biggest thing. The more alternatives the better!

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[-] GonzoVeritas@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I deleted 16 years worth of my 'content' across 6 handles and moved to Lemmy/kbin. When I do go back to check on Reddit, it's easy to see that many of the better contributors are gone, the quality of comments and posts, as well as the voting on posts, has greatly diminished. Some subs barely have anything in their 'new' queues.

[-] Threadsdeadbaby@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks. I'm happy for no ads no boys

Edit *no bots

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Boys are icky and have cooties, it is known

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[-] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

For sure. I'm using Lemmy much more than reddit. But it sucks because I really loved Reddit and I still use it to some degree. But when Relay stops working I might just stop altogether. I'm not installing their shitty app.

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[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 362 points 1 year ago

It was to be expected, but I found Lemmy because of everything that happened, uninstalled Reddit, and now use Mastodon and Lemmy as my social media platforms of choice, so it’s a personal win.

Hopefully, as Lemmy continues to thrive, instances hold up to the pressure of growth and we see an influx of content that made Reddit so valuable to users and Reddit corporate alike.

[-] KeraKali@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago

I also found Lemmy because of Reddit's fiasco, and I think its much better. Being able to have so many instances to get stuff from and forge communities offers a lot more freedom.

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[-] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 148 points 1 year ago

They didn't win, they just didn't fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don't have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit's flaws), and more will depart in time.

[-] SirStumps@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Reddit assisted their competition. Lemmy use doubled.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Doubled? I see posts with user engagement and it's a wall. Low, low, low, and then boom, astronomical.

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[-] DilipaEli@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago

In my eyes Gizmodo is not seeing the big picture. The protest didn't kill reddit, but that was not a realistic outcome to begin with. However it significantly hurt reddit and helped push lemmy as an alternative. Reddit will be around for a long time, until lemmy has more widespread adaptation. It's the beginning of the end for reddit and they'll experience that with a disaster ipo

[-] sfgifz@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Lemmy actually feels like a viable alternative now with apps like Sync upping the experience. Seems like Reddit literally shot itself in the foot by kicking 3rd party apps to competition.

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[-] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago

Reddit won? Good for them. I'm still not going back.

[-] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

Me reading this from lemmy

[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 93 points 1 year ago

Nobody cares though. The reddit administration has dethroned their own site, it will never gain that back. They're done, even if the site hangs around like a bad smell for a few more years.

[-] 7fb2adfb45bafcc01c80@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

Maybe they 'won', but I don't count a pyrrhic victory as winning. It will take years to recover.

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[-] fulano@lemmy.eco.br 89 points 1 year ago

The incredible thing about these articles is that they don't make the slight mention of lemmy.

That one linked is a well written summary of what happened, but it's partial if they don't include the migration that happened, even if it wasn't that big.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Not mentioning alternatives definitely feels like a favor for reddit tbh.

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[-] danielton@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

Did they win, though? Everybody who actually cared left. It was clear in June that they were going to do whatever the hell they wanted to regardless of what anyone did or said.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

Honestly I feel that this protest just showed me how uninteresting Reddit has become. Outside from small niche communities it's basically equivalent to any other news feed out there be it google news, Twitter or whatever.

Maybe it's not as good as we thought it was.

[-] margaritox@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Me too! I thought it’s be hard to be without reddit, but it turned out to be easier than I thought. And I’ve noticed that lemmy is growing faster than I expected.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

I’m here and I have an ad-free, troll-free, wholesome community to engage with on mostly the same topics I followed on Reddit. I declare myself the winner

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[-] moobythegoldensock@geddit.social 67 points 1 year ago

Reddit won against its own users, the very people it relies on to stay relevant. In doing so, it showed a large number of users they don’t need reddit.

As the Lemmy apps get better, more and more people will check out the ad-free reddit. We can get their content without needing their platform, which is huge.

Reddit won the battle, but will it win the war?

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[-] realitista@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago

Reddit won at building its own viable competitors like Kbin, Lemmy, and Squabbles and all the users of those platforms also won big from Reddit's hubris. The one thing I know for sure is that they have grown Lemmy by 7000%, and that's nothing to sneeze at.

Time will tell what happens to Reddit.

[-] Xavier@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 year ago

Really‽ I just checked and many of the small subreddits I used to follow became much less interesting/active if not dead.

Meanwhile, some of the bigger subs became a repost dumping ground of years old posts/images/videos/memes by fairly new accounts (i'm guessing those are bots karma farming).

The fediverse is the much better way IMHO.

In any case, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit have become too toxic to use I will keep away (though, I never had a Facebook nor a Twitter account)

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[-] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 46 points 1 year ago

I am not really shocked because the only way to really beat Reddit is by leaving the platform completely as in what many did when Melon Husk took over Twitter. Mass exodus. Express displeasure by voting with your feet and GTFO.

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[-] bestioon@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 year ago

it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez's money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.

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[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Let Reddit become Myspace. Lemmy wins, however we use it.

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[-] cccc@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I wonder how many users and how much traffic they lost in the process.

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[-] XLRV@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

I won't really call that a win,

Reddit lost the trust of many users, a non insignificant part of contributors and moderators left, the enshittification of the platform is not going to stop but they lost a big part of what made Reddit great. They damaged their image and popularity.

It's like saying Elon won by trashing Twitter. Sure he does what he wants with it but making your platform less desirable sure isn't a win for the platform.

[-] PlexSheep@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

That's not true. It may be true in r/technology, but reddit hasn't won. It's just that those still on Reddit didn't make it.

We showed that we care, and we showed that we can dump them. Reddit is currently dying. It may be a slow process, but I don't think the enshittification of reddit will stop.

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[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Looking at the site recently it feels like half the content is gone. A lot of old stuff hanging around /hot on subs that I frequented doesnt seem like anyone "won" here. Reddit lost content creators, the users lost site functionality and content and half the mods got kicked to the curb for nothing.

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[-] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

They might have won but now that Rif doesn't work anymore I'm testing Lemmy. I've noticed that reddit content is less updated throughough the day so I suppose that some active posters have left.

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[-] ram@feddit.nl 22 points 1 year ago

Spez gambled that most mods would give up because they where power whores. He won because he was right.

[-] exapsy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I dont know what you say, I transitioned to Lemmy 100% and deleted my acc at reddit.

The only super annoying thing is that they get to keep the cake whole and the dog full (my comments by deleting my name and my acc deleted). Which I despite them for that even more now and just make me avoid the platform even more and dis-advertise it.

I would be fully happy if I had my account, changed my comments first to "fuck /u/spez" and then had deleted my account, but I only knew so much. I was naive enough to think they would delete my comments too, since they're My Intellectual Property. Right? They came from my own mind, I took the time to write them, and I deleted them! But no! We will keep them, just delete your name.

And when you google my reddit username, you still get from the google's cache directed to threads with my deleted comments. Fuck you spez. Fuck you.

Time will tell if reddit won. It's not a short-term fight. I deleted my discord a Chinese Tencent's vessel and a product that makes no money but burns money for the sake of gathering data. My Instagram, my Meta account thus my FB too, my WhatsApp, every app that was there just to gather my data or exploit me now or in the future.

I do everything to keep off being fingerprinted. I use platforms that use more and more end-to-end encryption like Matrix. Or at worst Telegram which is not end to end but the best of the worst since my relatives still use it.

Just because you don't see it yet, doesn't mean that a movement against anti-consumer platforms like reddit don't exist. I inform my mom about it, I inform my relatives and friends about it. I move friends and friends move me to safer for the future to use platforms and de-centralized.

A battle may be short, but the war is long.

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[-] AntifaNI@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The last major holdouts in the protest against Reddit’s API pricing relented,

Some small subreddits are still protesting and planning on doing so indefinitely. Others have migrated to Lemmy/Raddle/Squabbles/Etc

[-] amenotef@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

My old time allocated to Reddit is now allocated to Lemmy (65%) Reddit (35%).

And Infinity for Lemmy is making Lemmy even more familiar than ever.

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