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[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 8 points 2 hours ago

Bro himself is literally only not whire because white people are so racist ...

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Is bad bunny not white? I thought Puerto Rico was colonized by the spanish wiping out the majority of the native population and he looks pretty spanish. I guess this is one of those "the Irish aren't white" situations.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago

The reason for this is that race is a made-up concept.

Race is a pure "us-vs-them" term. That's why the term "race" was roughly equivalent to "nationality" in most European languages before the term fell out of use after WW2.

If you read texts from 1920s Europe, they frequently talk about the "French race", the "German race" or the "English race". When the Nazis talked about the "uber race", they didn't mean white people, but instead meant German people. They saw the French, the English and so on as inferior races. (Which makes the concept of neonazis from other countries than Germany quite absurd.)

In the USA, there weren't enough people of one nationality to dominate the area, so they had to band together and create a "shared white identity", so their us-vs-them became roughly equivalent to the continent of origin.


Since "race" doesn't have any actual definition apart from us-vs-them, it can be adapted to whatever makes sense right now.

A "white person" can be someone who looks vaguely white. It could be someone where the majority of their ancestors come from a certain part of the world (e.g. excluding Ireland, Eastern Europe, North Africa, ... even though they might look indistinguishable from people from e.g. Western Europe). It could be someone where every single one of their ancestors come from a certain part of the world. It could even be just people of a certain socio-economic group. You could even define that "true whiteness" requires a certain political affiliation.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

most Puerto Ricans are tri-racial with their genetic makeup skewing towards towards African. the three groups that led us to now are the indigenous Taino who were enslaved by Christopher Columbus, enslaved Africans, and as you mentioned the Spanish. i don't know a single boricua who identifies as white. i'm sure they're out there, but they're just not who i'm knowing. but either way, white supremacy guages whiteness by proximity to power within a color coded society. so like… even if Bad Bunny were 100 of spanish descent it'd be as you say, similar to how the Irish, Italians, Romani, Jews, and Ukrainians aren't white under the framework of american white supremacy.

it's also important to know that white supremacy isn't a uniquely western European or so called united states thing. the all time promoting white supremacy champs are:

  • the so called united states
  • great Britain
  • Germany
  • Italy
  • Russia
  • Israel
  • China
  • Japan
[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

China promotes White Supremacy?

As someone who has lived in Puerto Rico, and whose mom was born and raised there of immigrants from Mandatory Iraq during WW2, I'd say about 20-30% of people in Puerto Rico consider themselves white.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The CCP promotes Han supremacy; it's literally encoded in the Chinese constitution that the leader has to be a Han and the deputy has to be other ethnicities. I learned about that while debating with a supremacist to justify their ideology and the slogan "[insert race/ethnicity/nationality] for [insert any given place]". That is why lot of white supremacists look to Japan and China, to a certain extent, about keeping "homogeneous" and "native". But white supremacists conveniently ignore that China is ethnically and linguistically diverse even with 90% Han population making up the Chinese demographic, and the Japanese came to Japan later, with Ainus being there first.

What supremacists really mean to say is that "might makes right. We may have actually come later to the land, but we displaced the original settlers by force. We ain't gonna let others do the same to us." I'm kinda glad I am born South East Asian, there is relative harmony among different groups.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

White supremacy probably not but racial supremacy is 100% true.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

the Han demographic exist in proximity to power in a color coded society

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv80cchq

here's a scholarly book examining how Han-centric views and narratives shape China's government

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

They're not rich enough to count as white, apparently.

[–] ThereIsNoEscape@leminal.space -4 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

I find it strange that people say that race is a made up concept, I understand the fundamental and I've absolutely zero problem with anyone from anywhere of any genetic makeup being with anyone or existing anywhere.

However there are absolutely genetic markers that differentiate us race wise and whilst some people may call that 'positive racism' theres a reason why Kenyan runners are the best. Its the same reason why dog breeds exist and have different features.

Personally I like to celebrate our differences, however I understand that people think to stop people weaponising them we should pretend we are all some animorphous blob.

I mean, Eventually we probably will be with the advancements in technology and our ability to more easily migrate. And I also dont care about that either, but I think its a little naieve to pretend that it doesnt exist.

[–] SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu 5 points 2 hours ago

Troll.

For anyone who cares to inform themselves, the Wikipedia article about race is a good place to learn why races don't map to biological reality:

Human genetic variation is predominantly within races, continuous, and complex in structure, which is inconsistent with the concept of genetic human races.

Also, dog breeds exist because humans have actively bred dogs to have certain traits - and I assume you meant "anamorphous"?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The problem with "eugenics" has never been the science (the science science, not the race science); selective breeding works with every other species in the world, it'd work with humans too. The problem is that out of every other species in the world, humans are the only ones to have developed "being systematically horrible to each other based off totally meaningless bullshit" and we've kinda embraced that as our whole thing.

In a perfect world where we don't have to worry about any of the practicalities, eugenics could be a wonderful tool for improving humanity as a whole. But humanity is too intrinsically broken to be able to handle it, and the practicalities we're glossing over in this case pretty much instantly become "forcibly sterilizing brown people".

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

I would like to challenge you to research exactly which genetic markers differentiate between races and the attempts up to this point to use them to categorize actual people.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

"For 13 minutes, my TV didn't have white people in the screen. I am getting oppressed!!!" That idiot

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago

Lady Gaga is a cryptid and does not count for category reasons.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Poor Puerto Ricans. Considered both American and not American at the same time.

Also, does Morgan not consider Ricky Martin as white? He appeared on the show!

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Let's not forget that they are subject to taxes yet lack any representation.

I'm pretty sure I remember a country that was pretty pissed off about that in the past...

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Ricky Martin is also Puerto Rican

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 hours ago

If Bad Bunny, a boricua, isn't white to Morgan, then Ricky Martin, a boricua, wouldn't be white either

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 40 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

As a Latino I grew up watching movies with nothing but white people on screen. But I’m not a crying like bitch like MAGA

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

same, but im asian. only white people/magas complain about wokeness. Also they have pet peeve with anything that strays from evangelical christianity subtleties in shows and movies.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

I watched "The Nightmare Before Christmas" once and I swear there wasn't a real person in there. They want every single one of us to be dead and animated!

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

There was some Richard Pryor joke about some 70s sci-fi movie with only whites in it. Think about what that means...

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 hours ago

The guy on top and at the back of the truck look pretty white.

My kids sometimes get pissed when you show someone else attention and they desire it.

This has nothing to do with anything, just thought I'd mention it.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm just sad he wasn't wearing a dress

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

You're telling me that guy at the very back of the truck bed isn't white? I have a darker tan than that guy and I'm white as Wonderbread (German/Irish/Danish heritage).

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

It's the Cheeleader Effect, but for racism

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 7 hours ago

Yet they accept RFK Jr, a man who looks like he's been creosoted, as one of their own.

[–] kcuf@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

There are multiple white folks in the photo... Even right in the center of the photo

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Latino isn't a skin color, and some of them are white. In Europe, almost no one questions the whiteness of the Spanish and Portugese.

My aunt was from Spain and she used to go ballistic whenever anybody would call her hispanic or Latina. "I'm European!"

[–] ammonium@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I think most people nowadays mean Latin Americans with Lationos. Otherwise you'd also have to throw in the Italians, the French, the Romanians, half of the Belgians and bunch of Africans.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 19 points 15 hours ago

When I was growing up, a gay kid in a rural setting living in near-poverty and surrounded by constant and extreme homophobic rhetoric, there basically was no open or obvious (to me) gay representation in my little slice of the world. I literally spent ages 10 - 17 thinking I was some alien creature, the one and only. While I knew other gay men existed somewhere out there, it was clear to me that they all lived in giant cities, went around wearing dresses, tried to kidnap little kids to turn them gay, nagged straight men and children for sex, and spread HIV/AIDS.

Truly sorry for the underrepresented heterosexual, Caucasian, Christian, English-only speaking children out there in the USA and their parents and really everybody else going through this affront to their existence. I totally and completely understand how you feel.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 140 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

There are at least 3 white people here. This fuckhead just doesn't see it because they're dressed differently then they think white people dress.

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