they could essentially create an account on mastodon and self verify. I guess the bad part is that bsky pro actively has to verify and they did.
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The moment the US Gov would have any instance on Mastodon, it would be blocked into oblivion.
TBF Bluesky users would send this account to blocko land quickly via block lists etc
It's useful for them to have a presence because it helps drum up anger at them. Did you see the shit on twitter where the official twitter of DSHS posted a pic of a tropical paradise with the caption America after 100 million deportations? Notably nobody believes there are 100M undocumented immigrants or even 100M immigrants period. 100M is the number of non-white people in America.
They literally said America will be great after we implement the final solution to the brown people problem. Hard to beat them calling themselves nazis. I say let them speak. Let people hear their hate so nobody has any illusions about who we are up against.
Its getting harder and harder to find a bar not full of Nazis
If you think about it, the USA is a Nazi bar.
It's not though
I can't find icegov on Bsky
Must already be on a moderation list I'm subscribed to
EDIT: Yep. It is.
ICE could easily make an account on Mastodon, would they get pissed if that happened too?
They could, however...
Mastodon is made of lots of instances, nobody wants to be the instance with ICE on it. If they make their own instance or the government makes their own, they can be defederated by whatever instances wish to.
That's the difference, you can kick Ice out of your federated servers. You can't do that with bsky.
This is such a virtue signalling to me... "Oh no, instance XYZ has account PQR on it, for shame!" - well, you're still using the app, the platform, you're still seeing the content. Unless you block them, which you can also do on TT/BSky.
It's just weird to me.
Defederation "blocks" that instance for all users. Not really the same thing as monolithic bsky or twitter. You are not even aware of the instances yours has defederated with.
Ye, ye, nothing says "freedom of speech" as much as collective punishment!
Especially now, with Fediverse being barely understood by its own users and those outside the bubble having no clue what any of that means. People signing up to random servers just to be able to get off of Reddit getting slapped with an instance ban will surely boost Fediverse numbers!
Mastodon can have instancewide ban, I am pretty sure any instance which allowed ICE would get the whole instance banned, and with it all the users leaving to any other one
I could never get used to that sort of app. Be it Twitter, bsky, or even mastodon. If I follow people, my feed gets so much content that I consider spam.
Say, there is a person that is awesome and occasionally posts interesting things. But also posts random spammy stuff, like "just took a shower. I feel so clean!". Why am I wasting my time reading that sort of content?? I think there are 0 people in the world from which I want to read 100% of their content. Maybe very very very few. So, it doesn't make much sense to follow people, and then waste hours scrolling content about which I don't care.
I could follow tags, but they still get so much spam and so I still have to scroll and scroll..
It is just not for me.
Hasn't these microblog services not just become an outlet for famous people i.e. actors, singers, models, politicians, influencers etc. and even government to post stuff? In some countries even the police use these platforms to communicate to the public even before using other outlets.
You can put your follows onto lists you can group by category on mastodon. My feed is literally my own posts and Technology Connections. If I want to see anyone else I follow I have to manually visit the lists.
I do the same on Lemmy. Smaller comms I'll subscribe to, but busy ones (esp meme ones) I just add to favourites so I can check them manually and I don't have an everlasting feed.
Same. Seems like a ton of people would actually like being cursed with telepathy that you can't turn off, being forced to share and receive every thought that crosses the mind.
Are y'all me? I never did Twitter, tried blue sky, got followed by someone pretty famous, but I really couldn't give a fuck less about it. Like you said, I don't want to know someone's every thought and action. Shit just isn't important to me.
Just because an account got verified doesn't mean Bluesky agrees with them
Who the fuck cares if "they" agree with them or not.
ICE is a fascist appendage and should not be allowed on any "public discourse" platform.
It means that a little more than it means they disagree with them.
ICE are masked jackboot thugs illegally deployed to our streets by a psychopathic rapist to punish people who don’t vote for him. If there is ever a time to resist tyranny….
“Welcome. Let’s see what you have to say” is not an appropriate reaction to their presence.
Verify it, then put a warning along the lines of
"This is the official profile of a fascistic terrorist organization. Beware."
Yeah, that makes sense. But why just verify? What non-evil is there that you achieve with that?
The verification doesn't work like on Twitter, it's just proving the identity, it's not some flag of prominence.
There's even multiple organizations who can issue verifications on bluesky, for example newspapers can act as verifiers of their own staff;
But why just verify? What non-evil is there that you achieve with that?
It gives those who're gonna have a field day with those cunts when they start lying, a legit target, and that it's not some asshat that is pretending to be ICE. I'm on bluesky and somewhat delighted they're going to have a presence. I'm gonna have fun ripping them new assholes.
What kind of zinger are you planning to drop that will make the intern running the ice account recoil and quit their job?
They shouldn't be allowed onto the platform at all. Don't verify them, ban them.
I’d rather the platform not be in charge of who’s allowed to use it. Yeah ICE sucks, but that’s not for the platform to decide.
If they break the rules of the platform, that’s a different story.
The platform is always in charge of who's allowed to use it. They already ban people and censor certain types of speech. This is a discussion about where the line is, not if its been drawn at all.
What's the issue with them being verified..?
Yeah, this just allows people to know that their content is really from the US government. Not verifying them seems like a worse alternative for everyone.
Yea i don't get it either, all it means is that they checked and it's run by actual ICE. It's not xitter, they don't get special privileges from it.
Agreed
I instantly know this really a treasonous post and I can downvote and ignore.
It saves me the step reading trying to decide if it is a parody account or something.
You mean Jack Dorsey? He left in 2024 and deleted his account. He still gave Trump and Musk a platform, though so I have no doubt he would have approved this if he still was with Bluesky today.
odd that their username is @icegov.bsky.social instead of @ice.gov... i guess nobody on their social media team knows how to configure a DNS record or create a .well-known textfile.