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[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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[–] Ghostwurm@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Reddit is the perfect metaphor for America. What was once a beautiful and accessible tapestry of independent contributions, has been gated and monetized. Now it is a place for slop, misinformation, and vitriol.

That it receives support in this form speaks to the mental health of its participants.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

What was once a beautiful and accessible tapestry of independent contributions

Reddit has been flooded with bots for decades. Bot engagement was a strategy the firm used to outcompetes Digg, as admins discovered any kind of engagement in comments juiced human participation.

The site's had quality contributions in the past. I'd argue it still does, in the more neglected and low pop corners of the site. But it's central thesis of stack-ranked engagement and search optimized meta-tagging fueled the worst kind of online participation straight back to the early days.

Reddit's last ten years of decline has more to do with the overall decline of the Internet as a service than anything the admins have done directly. Humans have been crowded out by automated promotion tools and AI Slop everywhere. Reddit's just a big popular spot that got hit hardest.

It was never a good site.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it’s not down because of digg, literally no investor cares about digg. It’s down because ad spending is down. Ad networks are spending steady on places like google and meta but they’re spending less on reddit.

Apparently this is because reddit sucks at the targeted ad game part and the advertisers feel they get a better return by just building a presence on the platform (eg bots that go “oh that’s cool. By the way have you tried the new Taco Bell™ PepsiCo™ Shitbowl®, now with 10% less petroleum byproducts?”).

This likely means they will become more aggressive about data collection and backend analysis of that data to get conversions up but they’ve been doing this for ages already. Reddits staff ballooned up long before the API fiasco and most of the hires were related to analytics. It only works if they can shift the culture away from nerd haven (aka people with adblockers who despise being advertised to and won’t click through) to facebook grandmas and ig normies that apparently love clicking ads.

They’re at least somewhat successful: while I and most of the people on this platform have shifted away from reddit they aren’t bleeding users like you want to believe. They’re not seeing exponential growth either, but they are seeing shifts to some of those populations. Anecdotally I have several family members in their 40s and 50s who were known for facebook drama and they are adopting tiktok and reddit nowadays. They eat up the obviously fake shit on relationshipadvice and places like that bc they’re primed from spending all day scrolling ig and youtube shorts to just digest content without any questioning of veracity and they ultimately love the outrage cycle.

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

All you said is probably accurate, but this one little dip was probably unrelated. It's already back up to where it was.

[–] Ok_Daikon_Radish@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That same post on Reddit was what encouraged me to look for alternatives. So here I am...

Well welcome aboard! Lemmy is a great substitution once you learn to cope with the fact that there is less content generally, but it is a much better community. Of course that depends on the instance you choose but you can always just silence the ones you don't want. I came here back during the api fiasco and I've never looked back. I can't even imagine using Reddit now. My wife still scrolls on it and it's so cringe, all bots and the same tired inside jokes. I like it here much better. We still get dumb jokes but it isn't nearly as bad as Reddit.

[–] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Welcome to Lemmy🎉

[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 82 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Would be kinda funny if Digg consumed reddit's userbase after so many people having come from there in the early days.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I remember when "Remember Digg?" was a meme on early Reddit.

[–] thurstylark@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember "Remember Digg?" digs?

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The irony of reddit becoming popular because Digg was doing all the manipulative bullshit reddit is doing now... Wait, no. Not irony. What's the other thing? Predictable.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That looks overvalued by about $228.495

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[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

i did make my script that cross posts from redddit yesterday so that might have something to do with it

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

Diggnation on revision 3 before YouTube existed

[–] john_lemmy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Totally forgot about digg, did not even know it was making a comeback. It even has the old logo on it, holy nostalgia

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

So it's only up by about 400% instead of 410%.

[–] BigBrownBeaver@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m getting all Angelfire’d up at this prospect!

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Isn't NeoCities exactly that ?

No idea. I'll have to Ask Jeeves.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Checks the P/E

106

Still absurdly overvalued. Let me know when it gets under 20

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

As a reminder, that any social network can be captured, if it relies on central control.

But competition is good at least.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unfortunately probably temporary. Digg is very unlikely to be a better reddit. They dont have the content or the users.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Excuse me ? How is that a reason ?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That's pretty nonsensical logic.

By that logic, reddit never would have been a thing, because they didn't have the content or the users, because they were all on digg.

No one migrated en masse to Lemmy because making an account here is too much work for someone to just hop on over and check out.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol wut. There has been massive migration to lemmy.

And the content quality dropped after.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There has been massive migration to lemmy.

...for varying definitions of "massive." I can basically guarantee that reddit didn't even notice.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reddit started in a VERY different online landscape, Lemmy got a huge boost from the APIpocolipse, and is still pretty small compared to reddit.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Reddit was nothing but an unused digg clone untill digg screwed themselves so everyone just moved over.

No one migrated en masse to Lemmy because making an account here is too much work for someone to just hop on over and check out.

On the plus side, Lemmy doesn't force you to make an account in order to view it. That's becoming increasingly rare these days. It used to be normal to lurk for a while and get a feel for a site before taking the jump to making an account, but so many places won't let you view a damn thing unless you sign up (and then when you have an account, they try to force their app onto you. Because of course.)

At least with Lemmy, newcomers can browse around and decide if making the account is worth it. The choices involved in picking an instance might not draw in crowds, but hopefully it'll draw in those who actually want to engage with the site. Quality over quantity.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

They're very unlikely to be a better reddit because they're just another walled garden and will end up the same way if they manage to be successful.

[–] LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

Those are rookie numbers. We gotta pump that stock DOWN

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

BBS Prodigy CompuServe Slashdot Fark Kuro5hin Digg Reddit Lemmy Digg?

Say it ain't so

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bring as many good Reddit users to Lemmy or Piefed and make it go down to zero.

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[–] rottenmummy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

These things have value out if nothing

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[–] Ghostwurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago
[–] gruvn@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

https://digg.com/?feed=all-digg - for folks like me.

I wonder if my Digg username still exists...

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It wiped and all is new. I made my same email and user name I had there from like 20 years ago. I was a bit sad it didn't say I had been on there since like 2005. I don't plan on using the account much, but I'd be damned if some bot or something took my old user name before I got it.

[–] neuromorph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
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[–] VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago

digg... A blast from the past!

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