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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Unrelated to the article/vid itself, thanks for making both a video, podcast, and an article. I know it is a lot of work, but I really appreciate being able to read it than having to watch a video.

"That’s the words of a guy you need to watch your drink around." chefs kiss.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

from the youtube browser comments, "Ladybird is our last hope" seems to be the new standard promotional cut'n'paste phrase

last hope for what, you might ask? well the true anti-woke browser, which is much more important than actually, say, working.

presumably brave is too SJW for these guys, as well as basically working insofar as it's just a chrome reskin

they want the TRUE GLORIOVS FVTVRE that only a nonexistent thing that doesn't fucking work, and won't cos the lead bozo is vibe coding it, can offer.

in fashtech, promises of future glory always beat present day actually fucking working

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

People nostalgic for a past that never was long for the browser that will never be

[–] self@awful.systems 51 points 3 days ago (11 children)

if you’re here to recommend ladybird, tell us why you’re doing advocacy for that trash fire in spite of the well-sourced, ah, downsides pointed out in article and video linked from the OP.

same for brave. I don’t give a fuck if privacyguides told you it was the goodest browser.

if you’re here to advocate for ladybird or brave and haven’t read the article in the OP, fuck off. don’t come here pretending to discuss something you haven’t read.

[–] self@awful.systems 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

important addendum: your reason for advocating for shit browsers owned by terrible people will be read out loud in the clown voice it deserves

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Lemmy needs a feature where we can click a button on a comment and make everyone see that comment in Comic Sans.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

Careful, don't slander Comic Sans. It is an asshole, and has the party people on its side.

(I also think the font gets too much flak, perhaps to really show our distaste of the comment make it the fraktur font, and flip it around (I did recently learn that flipping a front upside down/around makes it very hard to read for people who have trouble visualizing things in their head, which I had not thought about as being an issue)

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so I’m not saying I’m writing this down for the Lemmy clone’s features list, but

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago
.comment-node :has(.text-danger) {
    font-family: "Comic Sans MS", "Comic Sans" ;
}

Sorry (not sorry).

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

coming in rizz i'm sure

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 23 points 3 days ago

On the subject of Brave:

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ it really has a little bit to many controversies. (And the list is downplaying some of it, the wikipedia clone added wasn't just some random one, it is was the one created by the alt right, neo-nazi Vox Day. Addition of which by the CEO should be enough to not want to use the browser at all).

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Just pick one - All Fox functionality without bloatware

Librewolf

Waterfox

Floorp

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

Waterfox lore - it got acquired by System1 of "Guy Who Runs Three Companies Called Fidelity But Not The Fidelity You Know Probably Doesn’t Care That There’s Already A Company Called System1 That Does That Same Thing As The System1 His SPAC Is Buying. Just saying." 1 and then went private again 2, presumably they bought it back after the stock predictably tanked. Subprime adtech is a strange place.

IMHO should just bring back iceweasel, but what do i know.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

sadly, Floorp is going AI browser. I mean, "choice" to pick the bits of rat poop out browser.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

This is a banger of a metaphor

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think I already said this but you're not making me use something called "Floorp" even if it's the last piece of software in the world. Just come on.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is a wall decoration at the Enschede central station listing all the important companies started there by the local university and all but one I had not heard of (which is prob my fault) but those also all sounded like 'Floorp' I get a chuckle every time I walk past it.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Tech people should be banned from naming things (I'm fine with including myself here)

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Satire died when my friend told me at their Very Serious Corporation with a Very Important Mission Critical Software Stack they use a thing called "Splunk" and it wasn't a joke.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 21 hours ago

Snort with Splunk!

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I used Floorp for a while. (The search engine that dominated the industry was named for a child's nonsense-babble word for 10^100; nobody has a leg to stand on here.) It had a rare but persistent (and thus difficult to diagnose) problem of crashing my laptop hard when opening a private-mode window. Also, they're planning to incorporate AI on an "opt-in" basis instead of rejecting it on moral grounds.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago

I only use software named after words that aren’t made up. That is, I don’t use software. I post here by waving copper wire at telephone poles to bit bash my way through the tubes.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago

The search engine that dominated the industry was named for a child’s nonsense-babble word for 10^100;

And how did that work out in the long term? There were warning signs!

[–] figjam@midwest.social 8 points 3 days ago

So thats a no on "Floorp" then. Good

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[–] afporritt1001@lemmy.today 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Use LibreWolf or WaterFox and ironfox for android

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

both of these depend on firefox for survival unfortunately, no real hardforks yet.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 57 points 3 days ago (8 children)

you_were_the_chosen_one.gif

I jumped ship to Librewolf a year and a half ago (after seeing Mozilla steal people's data and sell it to advertisers), and I'm pretty fucking thankful for that. For anyone looking to leave Mozilla to rot, I highly recommend it.

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[–] jaschop@awful.systems 26 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The era of useful Silicon Valley Non-Profits seems to be fizzling out. I wonder how long Signal is going to hold out...

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