This thread is a testament to the years of china bad slop that white supremacist liberals have been eating.
Major props to all the patient comrades below trying to educate these stubborn klansmen.
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It's almost like socialism works and US propagandists have been telling us nothing but lies.
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lol @ that dork who can't be bothered to read a few paragraphs on Tibet and does the "China bad!" unironically.
They're also an eco-fascist "leftist," and just say "all countries are bad" and that "humanity should go extinct." There's nothing that seems to be capable of convincing them of being worthy of support.
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I gotta give you this one. I had a sensible chuckle. Development in China has been crazy!
Socialism in action, which allows for long-term planning and acheiving societal goals.
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Okay I would just upvote and move on, but you're clearly baiting with that title so if it's alright with you let's have some banter :P
If I say that
- the meme is on point
- material conditions in China are to some extent better than the US
- the US is definitely worse to its own people and the world
- I'm staunchly anti-capitalist
but I also say that I still don't like the Chinese state because I don't consider that (and ML in general) a form of worker-owned means of production (whether or not you agree)
Am I a "lib"?
Kinda? What do you think socialism looks like, if not the PRC? What about the PRC makes it not "genuine worker control," or more broadly, Marxism-Leninism not "genuine worker control?"
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but I also say that I still don't like the Chinese state because I don't consider that (and ML in general) a form of worker-owned means of production (whether or not you agree)
We've shown many times how the PRC is a worker-owned-and-controlled econoxy, and how the worker's congresses function in action.
If you don't consider any actually existing country that's trying to build socialism "up to your standard", then you should re-evaluate the basis of your opposition. If you kow-tow to every western-supremacist talking point about how Vietnam, the PRC, the DPRK, and Cuba "aren't doing socialism correctly because they aren't as smart as [insert western-supremacist marxist here], then yes, you are a liberal.
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