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Tesla Vision fails as owners complain of Model 3 cameras fogging up in cold weather::A number of Tesla owners have taken to Reddit after their front cameras fogged up and stopped working in cold weather, leaving several features, including the US$10,000 FSD Beta, inoperable. Tesla has declined to assist to these customers, despite many of their vehicles being covered under warranty.

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[-] superfes@lemmy.world 117 points 1 year ago

It's only a problem if you use your cars outside...

[-] redeyejedi@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

I swear I saw an article about someone whose tesla shorted out in the rain and they basically said you shouldn't have gotten it wet.

[-] Cheesus@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago
[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

That's mind boggling. I do not understand why people continue to buy cars from that trash company. Tesla has had a long history of shit build quality/quality control. With so many EV options on the market now, there's literally no incentive to go for Tesla anymore.

[-] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 111 points 1 year ago

What irks me about this is I own an ev (not a Tesla obviously fiat 500e) and I slog/bash that thing through mud/snow/rain/several inches of water on the regular and even do what id consider rally driving with it at times and it's fine. You know why? Because this was always a Tesla engineering failure and not an ev failure. But it sucks because people will think ev= unable to get wet which just is not true.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Neighbour in my old area got one of those "Gone to Plaid" (???) models, supposedly quite expensive. It had more panel gaps than my roomie's Golf, which was only a fraction of the price.

In fact the Golf has held up really well! He bought it second-hand for 160k, and is now looking to switch to a Miata. The dealership offered him 150k for it. He's been driving it for over a year.

Currency here is Swedish Crowns.

[-] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I was going to say, is this golf made of gold.

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[-] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 87 points 1 year ago

Every other car uses LIDAR and Elon thinks he’s such a forward thinker for shunning it. So dumb

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Think of it this way: He is such a visionary that fog is blinding his vehicles.

[-] StenSaksTapir@feddit.dk 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Radar. Only a small handful of cars have LIDAR. But your point still stands. Outside of Elon being a humongous douche and completely unpredictable, the lack of sensors is the major reason for not wanting a Tesla.

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[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

No Teslas in the wet or the cold. Pretty soon they'll only function, most of the time, in a climate controlled area.

[-] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 22 points 1 year ago

Lol, right? Every time there's a new article about Tesla and their issues with weather it's like reading a page out of Goldilocks and the Three Bears.

...And the Tesla said "Oooh dear this porridge is too hot! And this porridge is too cold!"

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[-] Glytch@ttrpg.network 32 points 1 year ago

It's like they only ever tested it in SoCal on sunny days.

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

So, the only way to have anything covered under warranty is to never have your Tesla leave the indoor track which is temp/humidity controlled.

Oh how far we've advanced.

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[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I don’t know much about this world, but I do know it’s ironic that a car feature called Vision is fogging up.

[-] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago

Can confirm it’s terrible all around. FSD is horrendous. It also has problems in bright sun and rain.

[-] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do people still buy Teslas? Serious question

Edit - great responses everyone. It was a genuine question & I appreciate the candor

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago
  1. They don't know better

  2. Status symbol

  3. Weird obsession with Elon

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
  1. They are tech nerds and want an EV.

It use to be this was excusable. But there are a lot of options now, no?

[-] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Wanting a Tesla 5 years ago is very different from still wanting a Tesla today, in 2023, after Elon has told everyone, in public, exactly who he was.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Why do people still buy Teslas? Serious question

I'm only answering because you sound sincere in your desire for the opinion of others. I'm not a Musk fanboy (years ago I was, admittedly). I'm not looking for a fight. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, here is mine because you asked for it:

Other EV brands are shockingly (no pun intended) behind in technology or implementation. Most other EV manufacturers are making cars today that are closer to what Tesla was making 5 or 10 years ago, including lots of design or construction mistakes with those other manufacturers. Add to that, I know the idea that Tesla cars are expensive in still in most people's minds, but Model 3 (available now at $31k USD) is one of the least expensive EVs on the road today with the tax credit from its fully domestically built battery. Non-Tesla charging infrastructure (in the USA, and even in Canada) is a joke to try to depend on it. Its also nice to be able to buy a car that supports the American workforce. A Tesla (bought in the USA) is the most American car you can buy! The top 4 "most American made cars" are Y, 3, X, and S. The number 5 slot is the Honda Passport.

Lastly, at least in the USA, buying a car from any other brand (except maybe Polestar now) means having to go through a local dealership, which is a horrible and exhausting experience. Buying a Tesla is refreshing in how transparent and low pressure the sales process is. No surprise fees, no dealer markup, no high pressure extended warranty or service plan sales.

I despise Musk's childishness and politics, but the product and buying experience tops every other EV on the market today. The other brands have need to mature very quickly. However it doesn't appear that Tesla is slowing down its growth either.

TLDR; Tesla makes the cheapest, most domestically produced, highest performance, most charging supported, best buying experience, most advanced mass market EV on the road today by a large margin.

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[-] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago

I bought mine in 2019 before I knew Elon is a lying turd. I bought FSD because I like tech stuff and I was doing a lot of highway driving at the time. My opinion of Elon and the car might be less negative if I didn’t feel like I got scammed out of $6000 for FSD. It’s been a good car otherwise, but I wouldn’t buy another one.

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[-] CallOfTheWild@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Because they're pretty great in most ways. They are one of the most energy efficient EVs, they are the most fun to drive of all the EVs I've driven (best acceleration and handling), I love not needing keys anymore. I love being able to control my car from the app. Tesla has almost twice as many high speed charging stations as every other charging company combined. They are more affordable than most other EVs. The lane assist is better than any other car on the market. Sure Elon is a dick, but Tesla has some adults in the room making good design decisions. It's certainly not perfect but it's a solid choice if you're looking for an affordable, fun, and efficient car.

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[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I mean how hard is it to give us tiny wipers on them. Cmon now.

[-] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or just heat the lenses, air force and army have been doing it for fucking decades. You never hear about an F18 TGP or Abrams commander sight "fogging up" lol

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[-] Thetimefarm@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

It's probably internal fogging because the units aren't well sealed.

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[-] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Camera fogging has been an issue since at least 2019.. Tesla forums usually have threads from new owners surprised by this each year..

It was 100% predictable that 'vision only' would fail in these circumstances.

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