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Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
Also, uh, if you have any doubt in your fortitude whatsoever, do not watch them.
Seriously.
For anyone who is curious but might not want to watch the video, here’s a description I found that a friend of mine who watched it says is accurate:
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he got shot in the neck by a high powered rifle and instantly litres of blood spewed out as he slumped over. He likely won't survive.
"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights" - Charlie Kirk, 2023
Ironically, this assassin literally justified the 2nd Amendment. You use it to off tyrants. And boy they sure did.
Finally a good guy with a gun
It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.
They were going to no matter what because no one is willing to stop them. Now there's one less.
You got to admit if you didn't want to get shot, visiting a US school was a bad idea.
Trump ally Charlie Kirk suggests children should watch public executions
He ended up being the one being executed publicly
Reminder that this is Kirk's stance on guns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVc9l6pjxtI
Unfettered 2A is worth the gun deaths according to Charlie Idiot here.
ETA: holy shit, saw a clip and damn, that dude is dead.
Trump ordered flags at half mast until Sunday. So this piece of shit got what he quite literally asked for and it’s a national tragedy, but innocent children killed in schools on a weekly basis get “nothing we can do about it, thoughts an prayers 🤷♂️.” Fucking clownshow.
My non-mod opinion on this:
Trump is posting Kirk is dead.
Not going to celebrate, just noting:
"I can't stand the word 'empathy', I think it's a made up New Age term." - Charlie Kirk
He was sitting at what he calls the "prove me wrong" table, answering questions about gun violence.
I think someone managed it.
Okay. Let me try to make a comment here that won't get obliterated as it's going to be real, REAL hard to dance within the lines on this.
Hokay... I obviously do not condone violence of any kind. But... literally no one can be surprised by this happening. Certainly not them. They've been pushing extremely violent rhetoric for years and Charlie Kirk is not exactly a subtle small face in all of that.
Astounding accuracy. I mean it wasn't like Kirk was moving around a whole lot in the situation but still.
Huge crowd, or at least for what I would expect, but I'm surprised no one saw something.
Angle of attack is kind of surprising as well. Kirk was sat fairly low down with a covering over the top. Relatively shallow angle from what I could see in order to be able to hit him. Shot seems to have come from his right.
His right is exposed overall but does anyone know what's actually to the left there?
And lastly, I am wondering how this is going to impact Nazis like Kirk in general. Are they going to ramp it up or step it down? Also wonder how long before people start saying it was done by some trans antifa palestinian who came to Utah from NYC via LA.
There's so many layers of irony to this event. You can't make this shit up.
A man, who made a career downplaying gun violence and advocating against empathy for its victims, was shot while giving a talk about his favorite topic under a tent that said "Prove me wrong", on a college campus in a state that just lifted its ban on weapons on college campuses. His own quotes can be endlessly used to shut down any outrage at his ironic demise.
Charlie Kirk's final moments were spent being definitively and completely proven wrong.
If this wasn't going to used as an excuse to ban Trans people from owning firearms and for further violence against the opposition, it would be hilarious.
Oh, so this is the school shooting that Conservatives suddenly give two shits about?
My water heater started leaking over the weekend. It was only seven years old, but I suppose since the warranty was six years, I shouldn't complain? Anyway, I installed my new water heater today, so I can shower again. This one has a 12-year warranty, it might out live me.
I just took a shower, I feel great. I'll be going for a walk around sunset. It's been a good day.
Former President Barack Obama stressed that "this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy."
With all due respect sir, if our democracy were functioning for all of the people instead of just for the rich, people wouldn’t feel the need to vote with the ammo box.
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113
Charlie Kirk Says Gun Deaths ‘Unfortunately’ Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment
Trump ally Charlie Kirk was shot at an event in Utah on Wednesday, a source familiar with the matter says.
The extent of Kirk’s injuries were not immediately clear.
trump asked for prayers. They’re going full Christian nationalist with their responses.
Kristi Noem: The secretary of Department of Homeland Security said, “Byron and I are lifting up Charlie, Erika, and their family in our prayers right now.”
Pete Hegseth: “An incredible Christian, American, and human being. May the healing hand of Jesus Christ be upon him,” the secretary of the Department of Defense said in a post on X.
Mike Johnson: The House Speaker asked to pray “for our good friend, Charlie Kirk,” in a post on social media.
Dan Bongino: The deputy FBI director said, “I don’t have the words. God help Charlie and his family.”
Nazis are so goddamn weird.
Audience member: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”
Kirk: “Too many.”
The same audience member went on say the number is five, and proceeded to ask if Kirk knows how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years.
Kirk: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”
Seconds later, the sound of a pop is heard and the crowd screams as Kirk gets shot and recoils in his seat.
Remember: The vast majority of mass attacks in the US have no connection to transgender people. From January 2013 to the present, of the more than 5,700 mass shootings in America (defined as four or more victims shot and killed), five shooters were confirmed as transgender, said Mark Bryant, founding executive director of the Gun Violence Archive.
He deserves the same empathy and compassion he gave to other victims of gun violence.
Can we all appreciate the irony that Charlie Kirk was shot debating about gun violence?
Interesting reflection of Lemmy demographics that I haven't seen much "But he has a wife and kids, we shouldn't be celebrating his death uwu" rhetoric. Apparently even the most staunch centrists here acknowledge the harm Toiler Paper USA has done to the US populace.
There's some insane laundering of his legacy going on now over on Reddit and through American news outlets though, as if he didn't call Paul Pelosi's attacker a "patriot" or dismiss school shootings as a necessary evil of the 2nd amendment. MSNBC even fired a political analyst over calling him "divisive."
I'm not one of those people who blame every ill of the world on the "neoliberal cucks" or whatever, but damn if they don't have a point regarding the corporate capture of the United States news media currently.
Magats: declare war on liberal America, send in military to accupy blue cities, have brownshirts asaault and deport non whites, even when they are US citizens.
Magats: gets surprised when someone shoots back.
If Mamdani would have been shot today instead of this melon headed fuck, he would have cheered.
Kirk gets shot and all the Republicrats: Political Assasination!1!1! 3 Dems get shot and one killed and the shooter has a hitlist: Meh…
Republican Senate Leader John Thune of South Dakota: “There is no place in our country for political violence. Period, full stop.”
Says the asshole who's party advocate for political violence every fucking day.
Its in moments like these that I really appreciate non corporate social media. Everywhere outside the fediverse all I see is people freaking out, acting like this is the first shooting to ever happen in the united states. Even supposed leftists are just like "I don't agree with the man but no one deserves to get killed over their beliefs".
They seem to have forgotten that people get killed over way dumber shit all the time. Personally I care about all the other shootings a lot more than this one. Especially the school shooting in Colorado that happened the same afternoon, which is being mostly ignored.
There are even lots of comments that condemn anyone making light of his death, or even just making comments about his politics. This dissent they condemn is almost nowhere to be found though, because algorithms bury it all straight to the bottom. The only opinion allowed to be seen is "I'm horrified look at me".
Coming back to a place where a real discussion can be had makes me realize just how important this project really is. We need more spaces that we truly own.
