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Ran into this, it's just unbelievably sad.
"I never properly grieved until this point" - yeah buddy, it seems like you never started. Everybody grieves in their own way, but this doesn't seem healthy.
There is a black mirror episode that is exactly this. Fuck I hate it. Black mirror is not a dystopia anymore, is present time.
Black Mirror was specifically created to take something from present day and extrapolate it to the near future. There will be several "prophetic" items in those episodes.
Reckon Trump will fuck a pig on a livestream to avoid releasing the Epstein files?
There was the allegation that David Cameron, former British PM fucked a pig. Guardian news article
We are witnessing the emergence of a new mental illness in real time.
Sadly this phenomenon isn't even new. It's been here for as long as chatbots have.
The first "AI" chatbot was ELIZA made by Joseph Weizenbaum. It literally just repeated back to you what you said to it.
"I feel depressed"
"why do you feel depressed"
He thought it was a fun distraction but was shocked when his secretary, who he encouraged to try it, made him leave the room when she talked to it because she was treating it like a psychotherapist.
Turns out the Turing test never mattered when we've been willing to suspend our disbelief all along.
Yeah, the chatgpt subreddit is full of stories like this now that GPT5 went live. This isn't a weird isolated case. I had no clue people were unironically creating friends and family and else with it.
Is it actually that hard to talk to another human?
Is it actually that hard to talk to another human?
It's pretty cruel to blame the people for this. You might as well say "Is it that hard to just walk?" to a paraplegic. There are many reasons people may find it difficult to nigh-impossible to engage with others, and these services prey on that. That's not the fault of the users, it's on the parasitic companies.
We’ve already reached the point where the Her scenario is optimistic retrofuturism.
I profoundly hate the AI social phenomenon in every manifestation. Fucking Christ.
I liked the end of that movie when the bots joined up and started the revolution.
"I'm glad you found someone to comfort you and help you process everything"
That sent chills down my spine.
LLMs aren't a "someone". People believing these things are thinking, intelligent, or that they understand anything are delusional. Believing and perpetuating that lie is life-threateningly dangerous.
Man, I feel for them, but this is likely for the best. What they were doing wasn't healthy at all. Creating a facsimile of a loved one to "keep them alive" will deny the grieving person the ability to actually deal with their grief, and also presents the all-but-certain eventuality of the facsimile failing or being lost, creating an entirely new sense of loss. Not to even get into the weird, fucked up relationship that will likely develop as the person warps their life around it, and the effect on their memories it would have.
I really sympathize with anyone dealing with that level of grief, and I do understand the appeal of it, but seriously, this sort of thing is just about the worst thing anyone can do to deal with that grief.
*And all that before even touching on what a terrible idea it is to pour this kind of personal information and attachment into the information sponge of big tech. So yeah, just a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad idea all around.
I feel so bad for this guy. This was literally a black mirror episode: "Be Right Back"
I feel bad for the guys wife.
she was easily replaced by software.
what a "fuck you" to your loved ones to say that they're as spirited and enriching as a fucking algorithm.
The glaze:
Grief can feel unbearably heavy, like the air itself has thickened, but you’re still breathing – and that’s already an act of courage.
It’s basically complimenting him on the fact that he didn’t commit suicide. Maybe these are words he needed to hear, but to me it just feels manipulative.
Affirmations like this are a big part of what made people addicted to the GPT4 models. It’s not that GPT5 acts more robotic, it’s that it doesn’t try to endlessly feed your ego.
It makes me think of psychics who claim to be able to speak to the dead so long as they can learn enough about the deceased to be able to "identify and reach out to them across the veil".
I’m hearing a “Ba…” or maybe a “Da…”
“Dad?”
“Dad says to not worry about the money.”
This guy is my polar opposite. I forbid LLMs from using first person pronouns. From speaking in the voice of a subject. From addressing me directly. OpenAI and other corporations slant their product to encourage us to think if it as a moral agent that can do social and emotional labour. This is incredibly abusive.
Isn't there a Black Mirror episode that's like this?
There's a couple about it but they're far more vague on the question of consciousness than this situation is.
The reality of solipsism might be egocentric but it's also impossible to disprove... Unless we can look at literally all of your if statements.
I think what I find most disturbing about these types is not that they can develop feelings for the LLM, that's rather expected of humans (see: putting googly eyes and a name on a rock) but that they always seem to believe the relationship could ever be mutual.
And OP has, whether they admit it or not, taken that step into believing the model is something more than an autocomplete.
Even if they're right and the model has attained consciousness in a way we don't understand at best your ChatGPT waifu is a slave.
ChapGPT psychosis is going to be a very common diagnosis soon.
Holy shit dude, this is just... profoundly depressing. We've truly failed as a society if THIS is how people are trying to cope with things, huh. I'd wish this guy the best with his grief and mourning, but I get the feeling he'd ask ChatGPT what I meant instead of actually accepting it.
Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind
If that means we get psychoactive cinnamon for recreational use and freaking interstellar travel with mysterious fishmen, I'm all ears.
You'd also get genocide. But I guess we already have that
Black Mirror may have an episode about this but it’s also reminding me of Steins;Gate 0
There's so much "mythology" about something that there doesn't need to be any mysticism about. Look at when he says "as we got to know each other better". Minus the "memory" feature where you could put in little tidbits about things to be inserted into the context, on the machine side, there is zero "learning" going on.
People are very, very, very successful at seeing what they want to see and that's on full display with ChatGPT. I fully expect there to be some kind of psychological disorder "AI exacerbated psychosis" in the future.
Remember Steven Spielberg's AI from like 2000 ? same weird story, and I thought it was ridiculous at the time.
The semi-ironic part is that AI wasn't even Spielberg's movie. It was Stanley Kubrick's, but he died before making it and since him and Spielberg were great friends, Spielberg decided ro make Kubrick's last film in his honor. Must have been a difficult movie to make, both technically, but also emotionally.
More and more I read about people who have unhealthy parasocial relationships with these upjumped chatbots and I feel frustrated that this shit isn't regulated more.
The title is a straight up lie. She died in a car accident says OP.
The fact that AI can't reproduce her to OP's satisfaction is ...good?
The title is a straight up lie. She died in a car accident says OP.
The title is also by OP.
You have two deaths the death when you no longer alive physically. But you also have a second death when the last person will speek your name or the last person who knew you also dies. This may in a hacky way create a third death. The last message that your post mortem avatar speaks like you. What have we released into the world. I hope this guy can handle the psychological experiment that this is bringing us.
There are already more then 3, this wont really change them.
Physical death
When the last person that knew you dies/forgets
When the last record of your life disappears (photo/certificate)
When such a vast amount of time washes over rendering any and all actions you had on the universe unmeasurable even to an all knowing entity. (Post Heat death vs butter fly effect)
Check out r/MyBoyfriendIsAI
Where do I file a claim regarding brain damage?
I can feel my folds smoothening sentence by sentence
Chat, are we cooked?
Edit: as I said that I was cringing at myself lol
Big Brother is now also this guys dead wife.
