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[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

So we're just going to take a comedian who is totally under the control of UA Nazis and US financial barons at his word? This is either a blindingly stupid lie, or the US and NATO are preparing for a false flag attack which could well lead to nuclear war. I know they're getting desperate, but we have to hope that they know where the line is.

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

This is either a blindingly stupid lie, or the US and NATO are preparing for a false flag attack which could well lead to nuclear war.

That's a false dichotomy. Russia has been threatening to use nukes all the time. Threatening to blow up a reactor is just more of the same.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

That's simply not true. Russian nuclear policy is exclusively retaliatory. They haven't been making threats, but simply reminding the warmongers of the west that there are lines which must not be crossed. This has been the Russian and Soviet nuclear policy since they developed nuclear weapons technology. The threats are coming from the west, namely the US which does have a first strike policy. The US continues to threaten Russia by stationing nuclear weapons ever closer to Russia's borders. It's almost like nobody knows why the "Cuban" Missile Crisis started.

If anyone in the west would actually listen to Putin and Lavrov instead of putting words in their mouths, we'd all be pretty clear on what second strike nuclear policy means by now, as well as what the Russian objectives are. Instead we're taking obvious western atrocity propaganda at face value and not even bothering to ask the very basic question of who gains by telling this story.

We can only hope this story is "just" WMDs in Iraq or babies in incubators levels of atrocity propaganda myth making, and not Gulf of Tonkin level false flag preparation. Then again the US side has already executed many of their previously prepared false flag attacks in this war. Hopefully the MacArthurs in the room don't win this time.

[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"If detonated, they would not damage the reactors but would create an image of shelling from the Ukrainian side,” the statement on Telegram said. It said the Ukrainian army stood “ready to act under any circumstances”.

In his nightly video message, Zelenskiy said Russia was planning to “simulate an attack” on the plant. “But in any case, the world sees – and cannot fail to see – that the only source of danger to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is Russia. And no one else.”

Zelenskiy and the Ukrainian military provided no evidence for their assertions"

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[-] Sauvandu59@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Hopefully this just ends up being another nothingburger like last time there was talk about a Ukrainian dirty bomb several months ago.

[-] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Well, well, well. It looks like it was indeed a nothingburger. That's a relief.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

NAFO trolls are very disappointed.

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You mean like when Ukraine claimed Russia put explosives on that dam that now is gone?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You mean the same dam that even western media acknowledged that Ukraine was shelling?

[-] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

No I mean when there was talk about a dirty bomb several months ago. The dam wasn't a nothingburger, hence why I didn't reference it??

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[-] RedMarsRepublic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Why would Russia blow up the NPP when they're winning the war? This is another atrocity by the Ukrainian military to muddy the waters and try to attract yet more international support like the dam bombing.

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[-] u_tamtam@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

How is the Russian propaganda attempting to frame that? "Ukrainians are Nazis and so we took over their nuclear power plant because we (though we) could. Now they want to destroy it, incurring an immense ecological impact to mostly themselves, because if they can't have it, better be dead too"?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

How is the Russian propaganda attempting to frame a completely baseless claim without any evidence and that make no sense, is that seriously the question you're asking here?

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