"Just say thank you." Good god. I would have loved to see Zelenskyy lay Vance out for that, Buzz Aldrin style. But because he's a superior human being to everyone else in that room, he did not.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He has said thank you to the people that have actually helped. Vance and Trump have done fuck all to be thanked for.

[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The only thing Vance is superior than anyone in is his application of fucking eyeliner.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh look there's an adult in the room. Can we keep him?

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nope, you voted the adults out of the room, I'm afraid.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who are you referring to?

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Zelensky, the adult.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Best not keep him from the war.

I do hope that this results in Europe's leaders understanding the importance of finding a way to end the Trump regime. But he just seems so entrenched. Roy Cohn taught him well (their reluctance is understandable).

It's going to be a long road.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That was physically painful to watch. It's beyond comprehension that snake oil seller became president. TWICE.

Europe, I hope it's not needed, but prepare as if WWIII is coming. I don't know if this time US will be an ally or not.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I literally couldn’t finish it as my blood was boiling. What giant fucking pieces of human garbage both Trump and Vance are.

I refuse to believe the american people will let him sit for four years. It’s just impossible to fathom that a single person can still defend this walking piece of wasted oxygen.

I feel truly sorry for all of you having to live in the US of today. Please don’t give up on your decency, solidarity and humanity.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not an American, but can I ask how they can get rid of him before his four years is up? Is that what impeaching is? Didn't they already do that last time? Didn't seem to work...

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I’m no expert on american politics, but from what I understand they would need to impeach him or him stepping down due to mounting resistance from the public. Impeachment needs a majority vote (2/3 I think) which won’t happen unless the democrats have enough votes.
Last time they did not.

The last seems unlikely, but I do believe most republican reps will change their tune if their constituents threaten their job security.
My reasoning being that they are in it for themselves first and foremost.

What confuses us (read: me) in Europe is how much shit they all get away with before voters change their mind. Hopefully more and more americans get fed up with the administration as prices rise and allies choose to look elsewhere for trade and weaponry.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I couldn't watch it all, trump and vance acted like used car salesman, yelling at someone because they got called out on their fleece and lies.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All this WWIII talk is tiring, Russia has no allies, even if NATO or Europe should get into a full scale war with Russia it would not be WWIII.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They certainly have 1 at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

True, but there must be a limit somewhere to what Americans accept from him.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This whole situation is absolutely fucking mortifying, genuinely. I can’t honestly think of another instance in which we’ve pulled such a rapid, bad-faith, ill-advised, and idiotic about face in terms of foreign policy.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just hate that his kids will campaign on his effectiveness as a leader in like 8-12 years.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Hopefully, he’ll have hurt and killed enough people that his popularity goes down somewhat. But he’s always gonna have the Nationalist Christians / Dominionists on his side - that needs to be addressed from a societal angle

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

B-b-but the minerals! Their value might just cover the rebuilding of the critical government functions after DOGE is finished looting it and the world is at war.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

I think most of the world would like to send Zelensky a fruit basket with a shit load of long range cruise missiles and FPV drones.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Zelensky should be commended for the simple fact that he didn't punch trump square in the jaw as soon as he was in the same room with him. God knows I wouldn't be able to restrain myself if I ever had the opportunity.

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What absolute fucking tools. I think I can see putins hand physically present in thier asses,

Watched the video and it's like 2 children thinking being loud will make them right. And you know all the maga freaks are going to eat it all up. They all would just love to get a drop of that trump cum in their mouths.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know... not that you're wrong... I just think we would all have liked not to have read that last sentence.

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Oh for sure. I wish I didn't have to write it, but here we are in a post sentence world.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

I’m just one US citizen but I’d like to apologize to all Ukrainians on behalf of 50% or so of all people here. Our leadership is disgusting.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 32 points 2 days ago

Are you kidding, that was fucking legendary. I've never seen anything like that before in my entire life. In the Oval office Zelensky told Trump and Vance they were full of shit, bullies, and simping for Putin. Based Zelensky.

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was hoping for mineral deal with US to drop in water, because it's a bad deal for Ukraine and orange bozo Trump thinks he can push around Zelinskyy just because he's in desperate war and has no choice.

Also to act like a fucking petulent child and behave like total dick at someone who comes asking for help and all you can think about are profits, get your morals fucking right because republican's moral compass is spinning at fucking 50k RPM.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This lovely little talk did in fact kill the mineral deal.

EDIT: From the article

According to CNN, Zelensky left the White House shortly after and the planned signing of the mineral deal as well as a planned press conference were both cancelled.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"disrespected the the United States of America in the cherished Oval Office."

He would definitely know.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

A shameful day to be an American.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-trump-get-into-heated-argument-during-live-conference/

(...) When Zelensky began to respond, Trump said: "You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble. You're not winning this.

Zelensky responded :

"We are staying, Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong. From the very beginning of the war, we've been alone. And we are thankful. I said thanks in this Cabinet," (...)

Partial transcripts from hindustan times :
(2 video via twixxxter)

hindustan times source :

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/trump-zelensky-and-vance-get-into-heated-argument-in-oval-office-watch-101740764244678.html

What really happened ?

... Vance told Zelensky (lies)

.
“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You guys are forcing conscripts to the frontlines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president.”

.
Zelenky responded
“Have you ever been to Ukraine?”

Vance shot back (more lies)

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“You bring people on a propaganda tour. Do you think it's respectful to come to the U.S. Oval Office and attack the administration that's trying to prevent the destruction of your country? You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for The United States Of America and the president who is trying to save your country.”

.
Zelenky replied :
“Everybody has problems, even you, but you have a nice ocean and don't feel it now - but you will feel it in the future.”

Trump interjected (rants)

.
“Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. You're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel. You're right now, not in a very good position. You don’t have the cards right now… You’re gambling with WWIII. It's going to be very hard to do business like this. You've got to be more thankful."

( parallel transcript ...)
When Zelensky began to respond,
Trump said,
"You are not allowed to talk."

Zelensky said :
"From the start of the war we were alone,"

Trump said :
"If you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks,"

Zelensky responded :
"In three days... I heard that from (~russian-president-vladimir~) putin," ... "Now, it's two weeks."

JD Vance jumped in :
"Just say thank you,"

Zelensky said he said thank you to the "American people."

In one of the videos posted online, Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S. Oksana Markarova is seen shaking her head in disbelief.

Zelensky said :
"God bless you won't have a war,"

Trump said :
"You don't know that, don't tell us what we feel,"

... Following a growing argument between the two, Trump said that Ukraine isn't in the position to set the terms for a future agreement.

Trump said :
"You are not in a good position. You don't have the right cards right now,"

Zelensky responded :
"I'm not playing cards,"

Trump then said :
"You're disrespecting this country, you can't play with it,"

Trump said after the argument :
“It’s going to make great television,”

The press briefing ended shortly after.

Zelensky met Trump in Washington on Feb. 28 as the two leaders are "expected" (... ?) to sign a framework deal on Ukraine's natural resources.

Trump shook Zelensky's hand as they stood before journalists, remaining silent as questions were shouted their way.

P.S. :
https://thehill.com/homenews/5169541-zelensky-departs-white-house-trump/

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky cut his visit to the White House short after a spat in the Oval Office led President Trump to call off negotiations.

Trump and Zelensky were slated to hold a press conference in the East Room of the White House after a bilateral lunch meeting in the Cabinet Room. But when their first meeting of the day in the Oval Office turned contentious, the Ukrainian leader departed.
.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

Trump and Zelensky were slated to hold a press conference in the East Room of the White House after a bilateral lunch meeting in the Cabinet Room. But when their first meeting of the day in the Oval Office turned contentious, the Ukrainian leader departed

Peace out you pair of cunts.

Enjoy your cold Big Macs.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I heard it from Putin.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, well, Kazakhstan's ex-chief of secret services recently confirmed russ's hold on Krasnov. There must be many such agents in Ukraine who also know a lot about Krasnov.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A stupid person( Krasnov Trump ) is the one who boasts he can end a war (not ceasefire) in 24 hours but fails to do it like a loser.

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

International politics is now like hunger games. One side has all the resources but no decency and the other side all the decency but no resources. Will the audience throw the decent side enough of their scraps for David to win over Goliath? Find out next week on 'everything sucks & humanity is doomed'!

[–] BoiBy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Tragic to see wtf happened with the US...

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 days ago

Disgusting behavior.

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

There is an alternative unviserse in which Zelensky did the world a service and has beaten up trump after that and gave him an atomic wedgy. It is sadly not our Timeline.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Ukraine knows the location of every nuclear power plant and oil wells in russia. Ukr has more cards than Trump thinks.

[–] Elfenbeil@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

WTF? That’s bullying and stupidity and I need to breath!

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Too bad it wasn’t hockey and they didn’t get into a little scuffle.