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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 217 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You know, for a free speech supporter, he sure seems to hate it when people speak freely.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 98 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He wants to speak freely, but he doesn't want to afford anyone else the same right.

It's not an uncommon stance, but it's a hypocritical one.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And when you say freely you mean hate.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

In his case.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago

Not really true. His supporters are allowed to speak freely as well.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 23 points 1 year ago

"Free speech absolutist"*

[–] Grassgrowz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

hes quite the selective speech supporter

He absolutely wants to support the speech he agrees with. The rest can get fucked.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 114 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only the cool kids know where to get FOSS.

somepusher

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] gandhibobandhi@feddit.org 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~Their backend is closed source.~~

[EDIT: Incorrect, see below]

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

On Wikipedia it says the servers are open source but spam prevention is proprietary.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the correction. That's pretty rad. Now I'm wondering if that's a wrong memory or if it was released in the last few years.

[–] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 7 points 1 year ago

There was a fuss a while back since the released source appeared to be waaaay out of date compared to what was being used.

They came out and said that they wanted the usernames feature to be developed fully before it got pushed public. Which they then did.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It's source-available

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They also block any content, even private messages that contain Bluesky for example.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Time to create redsky, yellowsky, and pinksky URL forwarders

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[–] Probius@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think we need laws against platforms censoring discussion of their rivals, particularly with shadow bans and shadow delistings.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You wish. It's not gonna happen with these douchebags in power.

[–] Probius@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

That's the sad truth.

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[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was waiting for such endorsement, maybe my friends will switch now.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago

Agree this reinforce that signal is good for now.

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[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago

It was never about free speech

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago

Very free speech absolutist of him.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 year ago
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using Signal for years. Love it.

Makes sense than an anti-free speech dipshit like Elon Musk would oppose it.

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[–] o_arguido@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (13 children)

It's not easy to leave WhatsApp. I've transitioned to Signal a month ago and lost contact with a lot of people. My friends and family think I'm going crazy for attitudes like these. "You can't change the world on your own".. like that was the plan 😅

Thanks Musk, that was the motivation I needed to keep away from WhatsApp.

Obviously not a X/Twitter user, I'm not a fkin idiot.

[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

"You can check out any time you like... But you can never leeeave."

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 26 points 1 year ago

Here are some workarounds:

  1. Don't use Xitter
  2. Use your phone number
  3. Use a URL shortener

He's not doing anything except getting more bad press for himself.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 23 points 1 year ago

Free speech but no Signal? Red flag.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I've blocked Twitter on my Adguard Home DNS already last year, so no "X" shit in my house/our mobile devices anywhere.

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[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Supposedly they're unblocked again, but there's been no explanation from Xitter about the issue. Definitely seems suspicious that this happened while DOGE is having trouble with whistleblowers using Signal, though.

https://gizmodo.com/x-briefly-blocked-then-unblocked-signal-links-as-federal-workers-seek-security-2000564966

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[–] dsilverz@friendica.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@cyrano The "problem" (actually, the feature) with those censorship algorithms is that they rely a lot on the "exact contents" of the message ("Scunthorpe Problem"), so X is probably programmed to detect the Signal's domain and block due to the presence of such link (similar to how Facebook was/is blocking links to the largest PixelFed instances, and then they also decided to block links to DistroWatch and official websites from various Linux distros), so it's not programmed (yet) to censor just the "hexadecimal/base64/whatever" portion of the link alone. And there's where Tox could shine: a handle is literally a hexadecimal sequence, without Tox's domains, without URI Schemas, just a bunch of digits and letters from A to F.

I don't know why Tox isn't mentioned as a "instant messaging platform for whistleblowers": it got Onion (Tor) tunneling possibility (as well as tunneling it through I2P outproxies because it actually accepts any kind of SOCKS5 proxy), it's registration-less (even Matrix needs registration) so it's effectively anonymous IMO.

SimpleX seems to be that, too, although I didn't have the opportunity to use it more than I used Tox. But from the little I've used it, it's similar to Signal in the sense that it's a link (and a large link) and not simply a hash/hex sequence.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Interesting, I did not know about that app https://tox.chat/index.html

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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Sounds like that censorship conservatives are all up in a row about... Oh not anymore fancy that

[–] takeiteasypolicy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army

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[–] PassingThrough@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So what’s the opinion here between Signal and SimpleX?

Signal gets all the attention, and seems more approachable but ties to a phone number which can be a big deal.

SimpleX ties to nothing but I could absolutely see people I know fucking it up and wondering where their “account” went.

So, Signal as an common man’s adoptable compromise and SimpleX to nerd out with full “opsec” and disposability? That about right?

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[–] Coolkat@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago

New certified Signal classic

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twitter should have been regulated as a common carrier and one rich asshole shouldn’t have been allowed to buy it, regardless of their politics

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The best endorsement you could get for moving to Signal.

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